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re: Orgeron just now: “I finally see the offense I want”

Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:37 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:37 pm to
This should be everyone’s response on any reports about the offense until we ACTUALLY see change and statistical improvement on the field
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:38 pm to
Less than 300 yards vs Mcneese in 2010


Man, it was quite the pattern
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:40 pm to
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Were they? 


To have a better offense? Yes.
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SU had several players along the offensive line that weren't ready. I


Several less talented olines didnt hold the offense back from being competent.
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You want to call it bashing them I don't care. It's SEC football either you can play the position or you can't


And if i want to question the coach i can. Its sec football either you can win a title at lsu or you cant.
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? So don't act like I was trashing players I pointed out where they weren't cutting it on the field.


Just like im pointing out that our offensive scheme and coaching isnt cutting it in the final results.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:44 pm to
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e had 500 yards vs Rice and UCF 


And thats it.

Also, ucf wa a top scoring defense.
I was talking about regular season.

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2015 
Eastern michigan 471 
Western kentucky 497 

2014 
Sam Houston 584 
New Mexico state. 563 

2013 
Kent state. 571 
Furman. 672 

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Looks like Miles offenses weren't that much better vs scrub



O has gained over 450 yards against scrubs twice in 2 years.

Miles last 2 years.
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2015 
Eastern michigan 471 
Western kentucky 497 

2014 
Sam Houston 584 
New Mexico state. 563 

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guess Les did have trouble unlike you seem to think...


At no point did i say he never struggled. That something you mind created.
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Holy shite, we really struggled vs scrubs in 2009. It was the norm





The 2 years he has been here.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:45 pm to
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Look at 2008 and 2009 

We frequently struggled vs scrubs ? 

I guess 2018 wasn't some outlier 


The fact that youre having to go back to 2008 and 2009 proves my point.

I just need 2 years from O.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:46 pm to
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Less than 300 yards vs Mcneese in 2010 ? 




Going back 5 seasons for miles
2 seasons for O.

Frequency


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2015  
Eastern michigan 471  
Western kentucky 497  

2014  
Sam Houston 584  
New Mexico state. 563  

2013  
Kent state. 571  
Furman. 672

Dont forget this.

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2015  
Eastern michigan 471  
Western kentucky 497  

2014  
Sam Houston 584  
New Mexico state. 563  

2013  
Kent state. 571  
Furman. 672 


O over 450 twice
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 10:48 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296071 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:47 pm to
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The fact that youre having to go back to 2008 and 2009 proves my point.


That our offense has struggled occasionally vs scrubs for a decade?

If that's your point, I definitely made it


You don't remember struggling vs Towson, Baw?

This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 10:50 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:49 pm to
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And if i want to question the coach i can. Its sec football either you can win a title at lsu or you cant.
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? So don't act like I was trashing players I pointed out where they weren't cutting it on the field.

Just like im pointing out that our offensive scheme and coaching isnt cutting it in the final results



Wasn't not isn't. You don't know what it's doing now.

And yes feel free to continue trashing the coaches it's what you do.

Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2471 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:50 pm to
The offense I want to see is the offense out scores the Bama offense.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:52 pm to
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That our offense has struggled occasionally vs scrubs for a decade? 


Nope... that the frequency of struggling has increased under O.
Youre having to go back 2008 and 2009 to match O's 2 years.


And again.... where ate these games from O...
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2015 
Eastern michigan 471 
Western kentucky 497 

2014 
Sam Houston 584 
New Mexico state. 563 

2013 
Kent state. 571 
Furman. 672 




In 2 years O has scored more than 40 against a scrub 2 times.

2014 and 2015 miles did it 5 times

Facts and shite
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296071 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:55 pm to
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Nope... that the frequency of struggling has increased under O.


We had over 400 yards vs tech and scored 38

The only "scrub" we struggled with was SE, and we had a 24 PT lead at halftime

Looks like Miles played Tech worse that Orgeron
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17601 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:55 pm to
Last year it was “exactly the offense I’ve envisioned.”
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:56 pm to
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You don't remember struggling vs Towson, Baw? 


I remember struggling more against scrubs under O than miles last 4 seasons.

I remember O scoring more than 40 points 2 times in his 2 years while miles did it 5 times in his last 2 years.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:58 pm to
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Wasn't not isn't.


Until there is proof it's "isnt".

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And yes feel free to continue trashing the coaches it's what you do. 

You feel free to bash the players in an attempt to remove blame from O and the scheme. Its what you do.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296071 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 10:58 pm to
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remember struggling more against scrubs under O than miles last 4 seasons.


Troy And Southeastern...the only bad/medicre vs scrubs

Miles had a stretch faaar worse than that 2008-2010

Looks like you just fabricated drama
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 11:00 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:01 pm to
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Troy And Southeastern... 


409 vs la tech.
Barely breaking 400 against Syracuse.


How about we meet halfway?

Miles had less trouble moving the ball at will against scrubs.
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3717 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:03 pm to
we might score against Bama then?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296071 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:06 pm to

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409 vs la tech.


We scored 24 pots to a 3-7 Tech team in 2009, this Tech team went to a bowl and we scored 38



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Barely breaking 400 against Syracuse.


ACC

This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 11:08 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:06 pm to
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Miles had a stretch faaar worse than that 2008-2010 


He did.can't disagree.
Those 2008-2010 were god awful.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 11:09 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:08 pm to
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We scored 24 pots to a 3-7 Tech team in 2009, this Tech team went to a bowl and we scored 38 


I admitted 2008-2010 had horrid years.

But 2011-2016 struggling against scrubs was the outlier.
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