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Orgeron is wrong to EVER tamper with the offense IMO
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:14 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:14 am
First off, I do not think the offense I have seen this season is what Canada really wants to do. I think he's been meddling the whole time, but stopping the shifts was clearly a horrible idea, as it got us no first half points against Troy State. Orgeron said he would stay out of the way, and so far, he is violating his promise there.
Canada's entire offense is based on the shifts and motions. Let him do it. Will the offense really work in this league? I think it can with the right personnel...they beat Clemson last year and put up 43. Canada's offensive knowledge far surpasses that of O, and O may be higher up in the coaching chain (inexplicably), but he has no business telling Canada what to do. Orgeron is a defensive line coach, not an offensive coordinator and surely not a head coach.
Canada's entire offense is based on the shifts and motions. Let him do it. Will the offense really work in this league? I think it can with the right personnel...they beat Clemson last year and put up 43. Canada's offensive knowledge far surpasses that of O, and O may be higher up in the coaching chain (inexplicably), but he has no business telling Canada what to do. Orgeron is a defensive line coach, not an offensive coordinator and surely not a head coach.
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:16 am to schwartzy
wasn't page 2 of his binders was that he learned his lessons from previous mistakes yawdy yawdy yawdy.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:17 am to schwartzy
You are wrong for sure on one thing. O is in charge. He can decide to get involved. Im not saying its a good thing.
To say the head coach shouldn't affect the offense lol. Input game planning etc. Cmon
To say the head coach shouldn't affect the offense lol. Input game planning etc. Cmon
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:18 am to Chad504boy
Ever, Never and Always are words that should not be used, as they ignore circumstances.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:21 am to schwartzy
Seriously what the hell does he know about running an offense? He needs to stay as far away as possible
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:22 am to zoom
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To say the head coach shouldn't affect the offense lol. Input game planning etc. Cmon
When your head coach fricking sucks he shouldn't. If our head coach was someone who didn't fricking suck, I'd want him involved
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:24 am to schwartzy
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Orgeron is wrong to EVER tamper with the offense IMO
And created additional pressure on himself in the process.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:29 am to schwartzy
While O meddling with the offense isn't a good idea. Hiring a HC who you don't trust to meddle in the schematics of your gameplan is an even worse idea.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:32 am to schwartzy
quote:
First off, I do not think the offense I have seen this season is what Canada really wants to do. I think he's been meddling the whole time, but stopping the shifts was clearly a horrible idea, as it got us no first half points against Troy State. Orgeron said he would stay out of the way, and so far, he is violating his promise there.
Canada's entire offense is based on the shifts and motions. Let him do it. Will the offense really work in this league? I think it can with the right personnel...they beat Clemson last year and put up 43. Canada's offensive knowledge far surpasses that of O, and O may be higher up in the coaching chain (inexplicably), but he has no business telling Canada what to do. Orgeron is a defensive line coach, not an offensive coordinator and surely not a head coach.
I agree that Orgeron needs to let Canada do his job and stay out of it...especially at this early stage. It's ridiculous to hire a guy and then step in 4 games into the season.
Having said that, Ensminger is surely in Orgeron's ear. If Orgeron is concerned, you can be assured that Ensminger is concerned. That's just another problem. When the coordinator doesn't have support of his offensive staff, it's very hard to do the job.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:33 am to schwartzy
Your opinion sucks. He is head coach. His team
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:36 am to schwartzy
Canada is nothing more than a middle of the road OC. GO check out his entire history of production as an OC. Except for 2 years, middle to bottom half of NCAA offenses over the last 10 years.
So we make hire an OC based on a one game against Clemson and a head coach from a binder?
So we make hire an OC based on a one game against Clemson and a head coach from a binder?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:43 am to schwartzy
While a lot of people agree with you, they are the same people who said he is the head coach and should step in and make adjustments. So don't ever rely on message boards to make decisions.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 10:50 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:47 am to CalTiger53
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Canada is nothing more than a middle of the road OC. GO check out his entire history of production as an OC. Except for 2 years, middle to bottom half of NCAA offenses over the last 10 years.
This has been my concern .. and in conferences with less talent and lower coaching.
Also, why is he only one year or less at most schools ...
red flag for me.... ????
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:50 am to Delmore1951
quote:Don't remind me.
Your opinion sucks. He is head coach. His team
Ed is a dirty, lying, traveling salesman. He said he would let the coaches coach to appease those that have no faith in his Xs and Os knowledge. He flat out lied. As I expected.
This man knows as much about how to score points as Canada does in his left pinky toe.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 10:54 am to CalTiger53
quote:?
they are the same people who said he is the head coach and should step in and make adjustments.
I'm not sure who that was. Most people were mad that O COULDN'T make adjustments because he's not Xs and Os knowledgeable. But not that they wanted him to make adjustments.
Did someone actually want O to make offensive decisions?
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:08 am to schwartzy
One thing I wonder about on offense is the hold overs from previous staff. Are Esminger and Grimes fully on board with Canada or are they possibly hampering him? I would’ve thought that someone like Canada would’ve wanted to hire his own assistants like an offensive line coach or receiver/tight end coach.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:12 am to zoom
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You are wrong for sure on one thing. O is in charge. He can decide to get involved. Im not saying its a good thing.
To say the head coach shouldn't affect the offense lol. Input game planning etc. Cmon
Except one if O's big selling points, out of his own mouth (binder), was that he would let the coordinators coach without interference. The guy is an effing DLine coach. He's not a better offensive mind than Canada.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:15 am to ChewyDante
It's his team he can say what he wants. If he wants to change a play he can dumbass. All u do is bitch and complain pussy. Support team or get lost. fricking loser
Posted on 10/5/17 at 11:29 am to Delmore1951
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It's his team he can say what he wants. If he wants to change a play he can dumbass
Point me to where his status as head coach or his liberty to "say what he wants" has been challenged.
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All u do is bitch and complain pussy
Well I wouldn't say it's all I do. But when LSU gets blown out by Ms. State, looks like dogshit against Syracuse, and loses to Troy at home, all the while the management sounds like a shitshow in all press conferences, yes, I do tend to complain. Not quite show how that makes me a "pussy" but I'm sure you have sound reasoning to support your ideas. I await them with bated breath.
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Support team or get lost.
So by discussing Orgeron's inconsistent words and actions and by "complaining" about LSU's losing play, one doesn't support the team? Do you understand how to apply logic at all? Like, even a little bit?
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fricking loser
Actually at the moment I'd say LSU's football program is the demonstrable loser.
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