re: Oregon laws concerning Cliff Harris incident

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Look Jackass, bottom line is this.

A. He had no damn Driving license.
B. He should never been allowed to drive a vehicle
C. Cop stated cause of lack of traffic on the road their is no cercern of reckless endangerment.

First off protecting an idiot only makes you look like one. Here at LSU if TM or RR get arrested we want his arse thrown out of school, not make excuses about it. How in the hell is he driving without a damn license anyways. You call us dumb, better look in that duck mirror first. Lastly, the RE charge! For a police officer to say there were no other cars on the road, so no RE charge, this is just lazy IMHO, If he was driving recklessly, the fact of cars not being on the road makes no difference. Going in excess of 100 MPH by definition is recklessly endangering your own personal life.

Who have u beat?
AU-nope
Tenn-yes (they suck anyways)

When a damn title then run your mouth, until then go play some hockey and STFU

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He never got arrested. He was simply handed his little citation and let drive off. I know it pisses you off that Oregon laws differ from LA laws but deal with it. And wreckless driving is not by default any speed over 100mph as you claim. One has to actually be driving "Wreckless" to get that charge. I know its a hard concept and all to grasp, but its not my fault you do not get it. I personally would love such a charge on me for that. I love going to court and making a cop look like a moron. Each time I do I get asked by the Judge, "are you a member of the Bar"... "no Sir". or, "Are you a Attorney" no Sir... And then I precede to make the cop look like a Moron and I have never had a case not be dismissed. And fighting a wreckless charge is super easy to defeat. I have never been charged with that, but my best friend was and I easily helped him get off that. You actually have to be proven to be driving "wreckless", go figure. So if your staying in your own lane, driving in a straight line, not weaving any, straight as a arrow, it cannot be wreckless. And if you locked every citizen up for going over 100mph you would have to lock up the whole State of Montana for many, many years as it was legal there for a very long time as they had no speed limit. And you would have to lock up the whole country of Germany as well. Try that argument with them that going those speeds automatically means you were driving Wreckless and see how they laugh their asses off and school you.

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Each time we beat a SEC team they always have the same excuses and they get real old.

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What, all THREE times - TWO of them against STATE? I can guarantee you that the fans of those 2-10 and 3-9 State teams didn't say shite after getting beat by Oregon.

And I want to see a link to UT fans using excuses for getting beat 48-13.




Date Opponent (record) Result Score Site
9/11/2010 @ Tennessee (6-7) W 48 13
1/10/2011 vs. Auburn (14-0) L 19 22 @ Glendale, AZ BCS Championship
8/30/2003 @ Mississippi State (2-10) W 42 34
8/31/2002 vs. Mississippi State (3-9) W 36 13
9/10/1977 @ Georgia (5-6) L 16 27
10/22/1977 @ Louisiana State (8-4) L 17 56
12/15/1934 @ Louisiana State (7-2-2) L 13 14
12/17/1932 @ Louisiana State (6-3-1) W 12 0
12/7/1929 vs. Florida (8-2) L 6 20 @ Miami, FL

And as far as excuses, talk to your brethern at Oregon State regarding their recent game in Tiger Stadium.

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Date Opponent (record) Result Score Site
9/11/2010 @ Tennessee (6-7) W 48 13
1/10/2011 vs. Auburn (14-0) L 19 22 @ Glendale, AZ BCS Championship
8/30/2003 @ Mississippi State (2-10) W 42 34
8/31/2002 vs. Mississippi State (3-9) W 36 13
9/10/1977 @ Georgia (5-6) L 16 27
10/22/1977 @ Louisiana State (8-4) L 17 56
12/15/1934 @ Louisiana State (7-2-2) L 13 14
12/17/1932 @ Louisiana State (6-3-1) W 12 0
12/7/1929 vs. Florida (8-2) L 6 20 @ Miami, FL

And as far as excuses, talk to your brethern at Oregon State regarding their recent game in Tiger Stadium.

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1929? Hey, aren't those players dead who played back that far? Just saying...

Matchup ______________ winner---Result---Spread on game
2000 #3 Bama @ UCLA ___ UCLA, _ 35-24 Bama by 7
2001 #17 UCLA @#25 Bama-UCLA, _20-17 Bama by 2
2002 Auburn @ #19 USC __ USC,__ 24-17 USC _ by 7
2002 MissSt @ #15 Oregon_Oregon, 36-13 Oregonby 13
2003 #13 LSU @ Arizona __ LSU, __ 59-13 LSU _ by 11
2003 #8 USC @ #6 Auburn-USC, __ 23-00 Auburnby 3
2003 Oregon @ Miss St ___ Oregon, 42-34 Oregonby 3
2004 Oregon St @ #4 LSU_ LSU, __ 22-21 LSU __ by 18 (OT)
2005 #5 LSU @ #15 ArizSt- LSU, __ 35-31 Ariz St by 1
2005 Arkansas @ #1 USC _ USC, _ 70-17 USC __ by 30
2006 Arizona @ #8 LSU ___ LSU, __ 45-03 LSU __ by 15
2006 #9 Cal @ #23 Tenn _ Tenn, __ 35-18 Cal __ by 2
2006 #6 USC @ Arkansas _ USC, __ 50-14 USC _ by 7
2006 Wash St @ #4 Auburn-Auburn, 40-14 Auburn by 14
2007 #15 Tenn @ #12 Cal_ Cal, ___ 45-31 Cal __ by 6
2008 #18 Tenn @ UCLA ___ UCLA, _ 27-24 Tenn _ by 7.5 (OT)
2008 #3 Georgia @ ArizSt_ Georgia- 27-10 Georgiaby 7
2009 #11 LSU @ Washing _ LSU, ___ 31-23 LSU __ by 17.5
2009 UCLA @ Tennessee __ UCLA, _ 19-15 Tenn __ by 8
2009 ArizSt @ #21Georgia- Georgia- 20-17 Georgiaby 13
2010 #7 Oregon @ Tenn __ Oregon,- 48-13 Oregon by 10.5
2011 #2 Oregon vs #1 Auburn AU,___22-19 Auburn by 1.5

From the Modern Football Era(the BCS)the PAC has won 12 vs 10 SEC.
The SEC was favored to win 12 of those games but only won 10.
Also one can see the PAC is 14-7-1 against the spread vs the SEC.

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And I want to see a link to UT fans using excuses for getting beat 48-13.

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You actually want to know something funny? Out of all the SEC fans that have not given us that much of a hard time vs all the rest of the SEC teams/fans is LSU fans. There has been some, but not even remotely close to the rest. I think it was because of that gift win you got with them. So if LSU fans say "Oregon sucks, Tenn was only young and down", that would not look good for you, the team who is even "lower" then the sucky team(us).

As far as a link to prove this. Buddy, I do not have hours to pull them all. If you are interested in reading everything, why dont you go to last years game thread on ESPN and read all the comments yourself. Or, go to any Tenn Blog after the game, days after because they hid in shell shock. The #1 excuse we got was that Tenn was just very young. And we only beat Tenn(worst defeat for Tenn in their Stadium's history) because they were so down. (funny, because they were boasting before the game along with the rest of the SEC fans how Team SEC was going to flatten us)

And we got tons of other excuses like, "Tenn was beating you at first, so that proved they had no trouble with you. And only because of the lighting storm and game delay, they lost.

Also Tenn fans(and other SEC fans)claiming we must of cheated and watched video of the first half while in the locker-room during the storm delay. They have to explain it away like this because in the 2nd half we made then look like a D-3 team. And I could go on and on.

But the easiest way to check is just go to ESPN, click on our schedule, then click on that game, and read the threads of that game. Very simple, but you would have to skim through hours and hours of reading. So be my guest.

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Forget the past. Play your best personnel. Period. No asterisks.

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I agree and same to you. I too want you at your best. If one of your players gets injured before the game I am going to be livid.

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As far as a link to prove this. Buddy, I do not have hours to pull them all. If you are interested in reading everything, why dont you go to last years game thread on ESPN and read all the comments yourself.

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So one game, and one fan site - ESPN at that, makes this statement valid...?

"Each time we beat a SEC team they always have the same excuses and they get real old."

No.

Sit down and shut up.

You'll get yours.

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He never got arrested. He was simply handed his little citation and let drive off. I know it pisses you off that Oregon laws differ from LA laws but deal with it. And wreckless driving is not by default any speed over 100mph as you claim. One has to actually be driving "Wreckless" to get that charge. I know its a hard concept and all to grasp, but its not my fault you do not get it. I personally would love such a charge on me for that. I love going to court and making a cop look like a moron. Each time I do I get asked by the Judge, "are you a member of the Bar"... "no Sir". or, "Are you a Attorney" no Sir... And then I precede to make the cop look like a Moron and I have never had a case not be dismissed. And fighting a wreckless charge is super easy to defeat. I have never been charged with that, but my best friend was and I easily helped him get off that. You actually have to be proven to be driving "wreckless", go figure. So if your staying in your own lane, driving in a straight line, not weaving any, straight as a arrow, it cannot be wreckless. And if you locked every citizen up for going over 100mph you would have to lock up the whole State of Montana for many, many years as it was legal there for a very long time as they had no speed limit. And you would have to lock up the whole country of Germany as well. Try that argument with them that going those speeds automatically means you were driving Wreckless and see how they laugh their asses off and school you.

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Ducksflyin- I am not concerned as much of driving over 100, as I am that Harris did it on a suspended license. You would think if anyone was stupid enough to drive with a suspended license, that he would try to be as inconspicuous as possible, but this idiot showed complete disregard or concern (hey, I'm an athlete), and drove over 100 at an odd hour of the night. Harris showed complete disregard for the driving laws and citizens of the state of Oregon. Oregon already has a reputation of being one of the new 'thug' schools, and a player showing disprespect for the law doesn't help matters. After prior incidents with players, such as Masoli and of course, who can forget LaGarrett Blount, a low life who your coach even allowed back on the field, I would think it is time to start making an example of these players to show this will no longer be tolerated. I also think your position is sad as well, since you seem more concerned about getting charges dropped or that it was no big deal, people do it all the time.

: A person commits the crime of reckless endangerment if the person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. “Reckless” conduct is conduct that exhibits a culpable disregard of foreseeable consequences to others from the act or omission involved. The accused need not intentionally cause a resulting harm or know that his conduct is substantially certain to cause that result. The ultimate question is whether, under all the circumstances, the accused’s conduct was of that heedless nature that made it actually or imminently dangerous to the rights or safety of others.


Regardless of the fact that the streets were empty, How does aan induvidual drive over 100 MPH and it is not considered reckless. Answer that until then SHUT UP. Driving at a speed of 100 MPH is reckless. On a side note how did he know the streets were empty? Did he call a local Traffic TV person? Did he call the local PD? 100 MPH is reckless. Him not knowing if a car is arround each curve makes it more reckless. Call us what you like, but if our player commited this act he would not be defended. You defending him make you look trashy. We condone speeders. Really as long as he plays on Saturdays in your eyes he could be a serial killer. Your school already assults people, why not a couple of moving violators too.

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And with me posting the PAC wins. Well, I was just proving one can easily post some wins, no big deal. Someone can even go back to 1929 and try to built a point. But then one can stick with the present and make a point too. I was just proving "team SEC" is not as invincible as people in the South like to believe.

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All of our trophy's say otherwise

LSUsaint - I think you're on to something here: it's called a rabbit hole. What the hell can happen from this? The trooper decided to let him go. You think there is some kind of collaboration with Oregon State Patrol and the UofO athletic department? You believe the NCAA should investigate to see if a benefit was provided to him? I think you need to let this one go.

Harris will get suspended. End of story. Nothing else here besides a dumb kid that needs a punishment.