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re: Opinion on Coach O

Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41752 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:14 pm to
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I think he has done a good job, especially bouncing back from the Troy debacle. Obviously it never should have happened, but if that is the catalyst to us competing for division and SEC championships, I'm all for it. IMO the Troy loss is ancient history and people that continue to bring it up as a negative look desperate and ignorant.

Beautiful! Why are you dwelling on it?
Your lack of putting that game into any context shows your lack of understanding football.
Correct, it shouldn't have happened. Bigger Romans have fallen further.
ADjust your mind to NOW not 3 years ago
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:16 pm to
Yes definitely better than expected. He has to win big eventually. But I will pull for him. Let's hope it all works out.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104801 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:18 pm to
You have to be the dumbest person on the Rant. I specifically worded my post to say that I'm impressed how he bounced back and that anyone who brings up the loss in a negative way is ignorant and desperate....
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I think he has done a good job, especially bouncing back from the Troy debacle.

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IMO the Troy loss is ancient history and people that continue to bring it up as a negative look desperate and ignorant.

Try harder.

Eta: I also said this is in the same post...
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but if that is the catalyst to us competing for division and SEC championships, I'm all for it. 
This post was edited on 7/27/19 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41752 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:20 pm to
Nick Saban is on the hottest streak of any Coach ever.
Coach O is in that division.
Until we beat Nick no NegaO will start to believe.

Malzahn is the only SEC Coach to beat Nick - did it twice. His seat is so hot it's sizzliong right now.

To deny the LSU program trending upward right now is intellectually dishonest.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:24 pm to
O will not be given 5-10 years to prove he can compete for NCs. If he doesn’t compete this year, Woodward will require him to do so in 2020, even though the team loses a lot in 2020 to the NFL. If he doesn’t, Scott will move on.

If O doesn’t do it this year, he will have to do it next year with a bunch of underclassmen and a new QB or face being replaced.

Just like Miles, no fricking excuses.
This post was edited on 7/27/19 at 8:28 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104801 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:27 pm to
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To deny the LSU program trending upward right now is intellectually dishonest.

No it's not. A trend is more than one season. That's pretty standard.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41752 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:28 pm to
Miles had no excuse because he REFUSED to change.
Are you seeing that in Ed O?
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:29 pm to
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Malzahn is the only SEC Coach to beat Nick - did it twice. His seat is so hot it's sizzliong right now.


He's the only ACTIVE SEC Coach to beat Nick and is on the hot seat after five years of 8-win seasons at August since their '13 NC.

More to the point, both Freeze and Miles did it multiple times as well. If we wanted a coach who could put together "pretty good" seasons and finish second in the division every year, why did we let Miles go at all? Orgeron needs to start winning the division to justify the change at the HC position, put simply.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104801 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:31 pm to
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why did we let Miles go at all?

It was past time for Miles to go. The game past him up and he was too stubborn to change his philosophy of attacking other team's strengths to make them bend their will. He was done at LSU and I would argue he was fired a year too late.
Posted by jgriffith
Paradise Valley, Arizona
Member since Sep 2005
6729 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:33 pm to
00 Tech Grad is absolutely right, and those of you who downvoted his post are stupid a*s idiots.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:33 pm to
LSU has a legitimate shot to go 11-1 this year with the talent that is there. Meh to 9-3 type seasons
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12444 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:34 pm to
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O will not be given 5-10 years to prove he can compete for NCs. If he doesn’t compete this year, Woodward will require him to do so in 2020, even though the team loses a lot in 2020 to the NFL. If he doesn’t, Scott will move on.

If O doesn’t do it this year, he will have to do it next year with a bunch of underclassmen and a new QB or face being replaced.

Just like Miles, no fricking excuses.


This, clock is ticking
Woodward shitcanned head football coach and head MBB in his first few years. ADs like their own guys.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41752 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:35 pm to
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No it's not. A trend is more than one season. That's pretty standard.


LINK
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41752 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:36 pm to
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It was past time for Miles to go. The game past him up and he was too stubborn to change his philosophy of attacking other team's strengths to make them bend their will. He was done at LSU and I would argue he was fired a year too late.

AGREE!
Common Ground is awesome!
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104801 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:38 pm to
Trend - the general movement over time of a statistically detectable change.

That's from your link.

As I said. One season isn't enough time to consider a trend, especially since the 2018 record was the same as Miles' last season. All Orgeron has to do is reach the 10-2 prediction most have including myslef, then you have a trend.
This post was edited on 7/27/19 at 8:41 pm
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:39 pm to
You make a valid point, but my question was why did we fire Miles if we were content with 9-10 win seasons and second place division finishes? We were already getting that.

Alabama has Saban.
Texas A&M has Fisher.
Florida has Mullen.
Georgia has Smart.

These are all coaches with championship pedigrees.

If we couldn't land Fisher or Herman, etc., then was Orgeron just a cost-saving move for the athletics department?
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41752 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:41 pm to
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As I said. One season isn't enough time to consider a trend.

You're fun to play with, LoserTik.
From the same link you cite:
a line of general direction or movement

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104801 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:42 pm to
Those are questions I can't answer. I preferred Herman, Fisher, Mullen or an up and coming coach. But, Orgeron has lived up to exceed my expectations so far and I hope he continues to. He has everything in place to do so this season.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:44 pm to
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Miles had no excuse because he REFUSED to change. Are you seeing that in Ed O?


No, but Miles was fired because he didn’t compete for championships, not because he refused to change. If his team had made the SECCG even with that putrid offense, he’d still be here.

If O doesn’t compete for them, he’ll be gone too. I’m so glad Woodward is AD instead of loser Alleva.

LSU is expected to be in the championship discussion no matter who the HC is.
This post was edited on 7/27/19 at 8:47 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104801 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 8:44 pm to
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a line of general direction or movement

Ok then, use that definition. Same record as the last full year Miles got fired and same recruiting numbers. Where is the general direction of movement in your opinion?
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