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re: one of the main reasons i like coach O and think he'll be a success at LSU

Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65964 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:50 pm to
Well that's just not true there have been plenty of first time head coaches with less of a resume at power 5 schools. Ole miss has one right now and he's exceeded expectations there.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:58 pm to
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we probably aren't going to make the playoffs this year unless we get lucky and bama loses a couple of games.


Bama only has to lose one, to LSU.
Aubie
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62179 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:36 pm to
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Well that's just not true there have been plenty of first time head coaches with less of a resume at power 5 schools. Ole miss has one right now and he's exceeded expectations there.



Yay! We're now comparing ourselves to Ole Miss. The devolution is complete.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:50 pm to
Ya right but now the haters blind to it regardless. Lsu and USC were high profile programs in big trouble and tough schedules to boot. He handled both situAtions as good as any interim HC has ever .. thats a fact.. winning 13 out of 17 games with a win vs Louisville and the heisman qb being the biggest achievement says something. Add the recruiting and the coaching hires and there is a lot to be excited about..
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65964 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:02 pm to
Lol not at all just saying there have been coaches with much less experience to get jobs. Ogeron wasn't who I expected or thought should get the job but some of the criticisms of him are just not accurate. It's like most things with our fans it's totally overblown and much more extreme than real. We had a functional retard as a head coach for over 10 years and ppl worshiped him but can't wrap their heads around this guy being head coach?
Posted by tigerbait1.6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:11 pm to
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In what was essentially a 2 year coaching search, we ended up with a guy on our staff.


We need to stop fooling ourselves, there never was really a search.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:46 pm to
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I find that extremely hard to believe. 




My sense of self worth doesnt come from a game thats played by kids. I didnt participate in the game.

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If a person is never given a second chance to prove otherwise then how can you say one way or another what kind of coach he is now. 

Thats exactly what i said in my first post. There is no evidence of O being a better coach or a worse coach.
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Saying he failed 15 yrs ago until your blue in the face isn't changing anything.

When did i say it would change things.

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Support him and quit talking shite 


Stating facts about ed Orgeron's career isnt talking shite.

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If this happend in the world there would never be something called a second chance


A second chance at a smaller program to show he has improved.
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A lot of people vouched for this man for a reason. 


Who? Our wonderful AD? If people thought he was a good coach he would have been offered a coordinator position.
Whether you like it or not the only school that wouldve hired him is lsu.
He wouldn't be a top 5 candidate at any other sec program.
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You know what's not crazy? You following a different program 


Na. I'm a season ticket holder.ill continue watching and cheering for lsu.
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Deal with it. It ain't changin

I never said its gonna change and i have dealt with it.
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He's done a lot of great things since he's been hired

Hired Canada and inherited a top 5 class( at the time)?
What else?
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He's a master motivator & recruite


We just had that.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:48 pm to
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Well that's just not true there have been plenty of first time head coaches with less of a resume at power 5 schools

I didnt say P5 programs. I said Big 6.
Not in the big 6. Ole miss isnt in the big 6.

In his 32 year career he has never once run a successful offense,defense or program.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 12:04 am to
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He handled both situAtions as good as any interim HC has ever .. thats a fact.


Thats is not a fact.
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That's when Colorado State handed the journeyman Baldwin a team and the interim tag. After a brilliant season—one that resulted in nine consecutive wins thanks in large part to the nation's No. 12 total offense—the play-caller of such production got the call. Given his long history in the sport, the Rams couldn't have picked a better perso


Finished 10 and 2. Thats just one.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65964 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:13 am to
Ahh ok was thinking you meant power 5 my bad. But still that's a very narrow point of view and LSU isn't what it was 15 years ago as evidence by the hire. I just think you're being unfair to O. Look at what he's done more recently as compared to what he did over a decade ago that should be a more accurate judgment of what he is tday. And being an assistant head coach shouldn't be a knock on him it's saying they needed him to oversee more than just calling plays and installing a system. Lets compare him vs ya boy Miles over his last two stops ( 16 games).
Coach O
12-4 win loss record and number 7 ranked recruiting class
Miles
11-5 record and last class was ranked 5th
You defend Miles to the death and Ogeron compares pretty favorably to him recently with his trajectory moving the opposite direction.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 1:32 am
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8896 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:37 am to
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Stating facts about ed Orgeron's career isnt talking shite.


Yes it is. It's shite that's been regurgitated over and over on here like nobody knows about his past already. He failed ok good. Move on. Saying it over and over changes nothing. He's our coach now.

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Who? Our wonderful AD? If people thought he was a good coach he would have been offered a coordinator position.


Pete Carroll & Jimmy Johnson for starters.

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Hired Canada and inherited a top 5 class( at the time)? What el


Changed the whole mindset and vibe of the program, hired and retained the best coordinators in college football. It's harder to keep that class in tact than to recruit it and he did that. If you can't see how much the program has changed overall since he was named interim you just don't want to see it.

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We just had that


Miles was the opposite of a motivator. The LSU program was sleep walking by the time he was fired. The dude killed all excitement about wearing an LSU uniform or watching an LSU game. You can obviously tell how much energy O brings to the team. It's unmatched. Miles was like your special ed son taking over your Fortune 500 company after you passed away. It will last for a while on its own until one day your leadership or lack there of catches up with you.


This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 7:42 am
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64470 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:51 am to
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Lots of good HC failed at previous stops.


This almost never happens at the college level. Some guys fail at coaching professionals, then come back to college. But coaches almost never fail at the college level and then bounce back with a great tenure at another top tier college position.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30370 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:59 am to
But Pete Carroll said he could do it and it's completely different than when he said the same thing about him at Ole Miss. I mean, did you hear he actually called Joe Alleva?!?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:14 am to
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There is zero proof of this. Not even a shred of evidence.


He is 12-4 as an interim or permanent head coach since his stint at Ole Miss. This is evidence that he has improved. It may not be conclusive yet, but to say there is "not even a shred of evidence" that he has improved is flat-out false.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64470 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:29 am to
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You can obviously tell how much energy O brings to the team. It's unmatched.


Florida and Alabama matched it.
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Miles was like your special ed son taking over your Fortune 500 company after you passed away. It will last for a while on its own until one day your leadership or lack there of catches up with you.




Sort of like having success as an interim head coach, right?

Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8896 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:34 am to
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But Pete Carroll said he could do it and it's completely different than when he said the same thing about him at Ole Miss. I mean, did you hear he actually called Joe Alleva?!?



Look dude you crybaby back bitches don't have to follow LSU athletics. It's pretty simple. Positive changes are going on. There's no denying that but you still get on here and melt like a female. You won't be posting shite on here when he's winning ball games.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:34 am to
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12-4 win loss record and number 7 ranked recruiting class Miles 11-5 record and last class was ranked 5th You defend Miles to the death and Ogeron compares pretty favorably to him recently with his trajectory moving the opposite direction. This post was edited on 5/1 at 1:32 am


These two situations are not even remotely similar.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8896 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:37 am to
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Florida and Alabama matched it.


You thought he would come into a half arse season and go undefeated? Keep up those expectations. Feel sorry for your family. They'll never live up to your fantasy life
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:40 am to
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Miles was like your special ed son taking over your Fortune 500 company after you passed away. It will last for a while on its own until one day your leadership or lack there of catches up with you.

You're really going to make this argument in defense of a coach who's only success has been in an interim coach capacity? Holy shite
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62179 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:45 am to
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Look dude you crybaby back bitches don't have to follow LSU athletics. It's pretty simple. Positive changes are going on. There's no denying that but you still get on here and melt like a female. You won't be posting shite on here when he's winning ball games.


You sound really mad about this.
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