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re: Once again, having Jarrett Lee at QB helps the LSU running game
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:16 pm to just me
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:16 pm to just me
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Do you dispute that LSU ran better last year than this year?
Dude, we've played ONE game this year.
And we gained 175 yards rushing against Oregon so it was hardly a subpar performance.
LSU averaged 185 yards rushing per game last year over an ENTIRE SEASON.
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Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:17 pm to ZTiger87
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The threat of a passing game will get the DBs to move back.
Yep
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Nobody fears our passing game right now.
Yep
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So the next best thing would be a QB who is a threat to run. At least he will occupy a defender when we do run.
It causes the defense to account for him. It changes their basic scheme.
Now that we have been through all of that, let's go to TS tomorrow night and give Lee our full backing.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:20 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
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So you were assuming that Lee, with another 300 running plays, could not have been a contributing factor to said running plays.
Because the offensive strategy has changed, all the points made, pro and con, are largely moot. I do think, in general, the defense can't cheat as much with lee at QB because he seems to be able to make a wider variety of throws compared to JJ. But the difference is small because you can rattle him. If lee was a little tougher it would be no contest...IMHO
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:22 pm to Uncommon Cents
quote:My point exactly. JL is our starter, lets give him full support
It causes the defense to account for him. It changes their basic scheme. Now that we have been through all of that, let's go to TS tomorrow night and give Lee our full backing.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:23 pm to Uncommon Cents
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It causes the defense to account for him. It changes their basic scheme.
Only on obvious passing downs, and it should help the passing game, not the running game.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:23 pm to ForeLSU
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If lee was a little tougher it would be no contest...IMHO
Oh lawzy. Don't go there.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:34 pm to Uncommon Cents
To the posters arguing over stats... you must take into account that this one game was against an above average team. I would imagine that these averages will be much better after Northwestern and change game to game through the first half of the season.
I imagine JL will get more passing attempts this weekend since the game does not dictate the need to have a conservative game plan.
Who cares what the stats are or what one player does? Our team just beat one of the top teams in the country and I expect our team will contiue to play well.
I imagine JL will get more passing attempts this weekend since the game does not dictate the need to have a conservative game plan.
Who cares what the stats are or what one player does? Our team just beat one of the top teams in the country and I expect our team will contiue to play well.
This post was edited on 9/9/11 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:50 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
quote:Which option? 99% of people on here think traditional (SSO
. And yes, we are better at other running plays than we are the option.
), etc and that's a small % of the options run. A lot of it isn't recognized since the QB and RB don't run to the same side. Who gets the ball depends on what the key on D does.
This can make the DL tentative and half a second can make all the difference.
Not to mention it's a numbers advantage with D having to respect the QB as a threat.
When LSU faces a top SEC D that can't be pushed around and covers well, this deficit will come up I'm afraid.
I'd guess 80% of BCS Champs have featured this pretty extensively you know. I wouldn't go dissin it too much in football public.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 5:57 pm to Burleis
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Who cares what the stats are or what one player does as long as LSU wins
FIFY
Posted on 9/9/11 at 6:03 pm to Uncommon Cents
quote:I won't be at the game.
let's go to TS tomorrow night and give Lee our full backing.
I will, however, be cheering my arse off for Lee.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 6:04 pm to junkfunky
The times Jarrett Lee has found his comfort zone and his receivers, appears to be when LSU plays at a little faster pace on offense. If LSU can just show a little more consistency and improvement in its passing game, game over for the rest of the sec, especially with this defense.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 6:08 pm to Doc Fenton
Anyone who disagrees with you is stupid.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 6:11 pm to Doc Fenton
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the LSU running game works better with a pro-style QB
2005 LSU averaged 3.8 yds per rush with Russell
2006 LSU averaged 4.8 yds with Russell
2007 LSU averaged 4.9 with Flynn
2008 LSU averaged 4.4 with Lee
2009 LSU averaged 3.7 with Jefferson
2010 LSU averaged 4.5 with Jefferson
One game into 2011 LSU averaged 3.6 with Lee
I don't see a clear difference.
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the passing game was still very very DANGEROUS
The LSU passing game hasn't been "very very DANGEROUS" since 2006. imo
Posted on 9/9/11 at 6:16 pm to USMCTiger03
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Anyone who disagrees with you is stupid.
Posted on 9/9/11 at 6:16 pm to Doc Fenton
I agree...It was becoming more apparent towards the end of the game...Most people attribute it to the o line wearing the d down...but that was only part of it...Ford was never suppose to make that last touchdown...He was there to run out the clock...but once he blew through the hole...He followed the gaps that in the past would have been filled with linebackers....and got the easy td
Posted on 9/9/11 at 6:16 pm to ZTiger87
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They continued to put 8 in the box. Lee did nothing to help the running game.
they had 9 at times. once i counted 10.
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Posted on 9/9/11 at 6:18 pm to Fat Bastard
and when they did....Jarret went over the top to D. Peterson and made them PAY for their 8 men in the box....
Posted on 9/9/11 at 6:20 pm to Robbytiger
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I agree...It was becoming more apparent towards the end of the game...Most people attribute it to the o line wearing the d down...but that was only part of it...Ford was never suppose to make that last touchdown...He was there to run out the clock...but once he blew through the hole...He followed the gaps that in the past would have been filled with linebackers....and got the easy td
Not following your logic.
Are you saying on LSU's last scoring drive that Oregon's linebackers had to respect Lee's ability to pass and that's why the gaps weren't filled with linebackers when Ford blew through the hole?
Just trying to clarify...
Posted on 9/9/11 at 6:39 pm to ForeLSU
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If lee was a little tougher it would be no contest...IMHO
You've got to be kidding me
Posted on 9/9/11 at 6:41 pm to Robbytiger
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and when they did....Jarret went over the top to D. Peterson and made them PAY for their 8 men in the box....
no,not all the time.we ran against 9 men in the box a few times. but yes, once we get passing chemistry down which we will have to for sec play we will be fine.
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