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re: On the bright side - a complete destruction will attract a good HC
Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:46 am to siliconvalleytiger
Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:46 am to siliconvalleytiger
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Orgeron played politics and got the job. There was no search.
agreed.
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Now imagine if we'd fired Miles after the Aggy game in 2015. Very unlikely Orgeron gets the job then and we're more in a Georgia type situation with a new HC in his second full year.
Honestly...I can't confidently say that. Who's to say Alleva does a real search then if O and various members of the BOS are in his ear telling him he can do the job, etc. Maybe we get O in 2016 and this dumpster fire starts last year instead of this one?
My point is, we live in a universe where a highly paid professional athletic director looked at Ed Orgeron and his resume and thought it was a good plan to follow Nick Saban and his National Title and Les Miles and his National title with Ed Oregon and his binder.
I have no faith this was ever going to turn out anyway but the way it has.
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:46 am to siliconvalleytiger
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I was wrong beefense
I was wrong as well... I was hoping for more of what I saw the last 8 games last year. Not sure what is really going on, but this is NOT the same attitude I saw with this team late last year,,,,,,,,,,, I always have thought O was not the best hire and the whole so-called coaching search was A joke... Alleva can go,,,, But where does that put us????
Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:48 am to dukke v
Well....I was right...it sucks 
Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:48 am to GeauxTigerTM
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How many other top coaches were talked to and turned us down due to unrealistic expectations and a short leash?
We'll never know. There were credible rumors about coaches being interested in the LSU job, but we'll never know how real that was.
LSU will be in a tough spot after this or next year: sky-high expectations, potential talent and recruiting deficits and budget restraints due to CLM / CEO buyouts.
The good news? LSU is still a major SEC power. An ambitious coach can get $5M a year to work on the biggest stage in college football.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 11:51 am to GeauxTigerTM
Nobody knows for sure. But a 2015 firing gives Orgeron no time to play politics and a more natural search process takes place that finds a real coach.
I'm just hypothesizing. All we can do.
I'm just hypothesizing. All we can do.
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 11:52 am
Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:12 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:22 am to GeauxTigerTM
Orgeron and Alleva are merely symptoms of the problem of LSU athletics.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:14 am to siliconvalleytiger
Maybe - if you believe that Jason Fuentes or PJ Fleck are the answer. I'm not a fan of either, but I cannot deny their success - certainly more proven as head coaches than O, but that's pretty much true of any coach with a winning record.
But - I still don't see a change this year, unless the collapse is total (we go 0-fer the rest of the season? Maybe there is a change - big maybe).
We should be looking at who is available next year - and just be prepared to offer an incentive-heavy, high ceiling 4 or 5 year contract to the best 10 coaches on the market. Someone from the group will take a chance on becoming the highest paid CFB coach in the country.
That's how you win, folks - not hiring a guy who just really wants the job badly. You make the best guy available take the job. "Bid for talent" and "negotiate" - which are things that Alleva is unwilling to do - ergo he has to go first.
But - I still don't see a change this year, unless the collapse is total (we go 0-fer the rest of the season? Maybe there is a change - big maybe).
We should be looking at who is available next year - and just be prepared to offer an incentive-heavy, high ceiling 4 or 5 year contract to the best 10 coaches on the market. Someone from the group will take a chance on becoming the highest paid CFB coach in the country.
That's how you win, folks - not hiring a guy who just really wants the job badly. You make the best guy available take the job. "Bid for talent" and "negotiate" - which are things that Alleva is unwilling to do - ergo he has to go first.
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