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re: Old Dude's LSU's Best Backs from each Decade
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:11 pm to LSUBeaux88
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:11 pm to LSUBeaux88
Fournette averaged 4.8 YPC and 5.8 YPC vs Arkansas when he got more than 5 carries in a game.
I am not saying Guice isn't good but people talk about LF7 running against bad teams when Guice ran against mostly shitty defenses last year.
The 4 best defenses we faced last year were Wisconsin Auburn Bama and Florida
Guice got like 27 carries in those 4 games combines
That's 27/183 carries.
And 153/1387. That's under 12% of his yards
So LF7 gets bashed because he ran all over Syracuse but no one cares that Guice had more yards against Southern Miss than Wiscy, Auburn Bama and Florida combined.
I am not saying Guice isn't good but people talk about LF7 running against bad teams when Guice ran against mostly shitty defenses last year.
The 4 best defenses we faced last year were Wisconsin Auburn Bama and Florida
Guice got like 27 carries in those 4 games combines
That's 27/183 carries.
And 153/1387. That's under 12% of his yards
So LF7 gets bashed because he ran all over Syracuse but no one cares that Guice had more yards against Southern Miss than Wiscy, Auburn Bama and Florida combined.
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:13 pm to SammyTiger
It's obvious that guy has no clue what he's talking about and his argument is about as retarted as the original statement.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:03 pm to Tiger1988
quote:
2000's - Hester
Should be any number of backs rather than Hester.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:04 pm to Tiger1988
1940's Steve Van Buren
1950's Billy Cannon
1960's Jerry Stovall
1970's Charles Alexander
1980's Dalton Hilliard
1990's Kevin Faulk
1900's Clearance Smith
1910's Likely H.F. Flanagan
1920's Maybe C.A. Ives
1930's Jesse Fatheree
1950's Billy Cannon
1960's Jerry Stovall
1970's Charles Alexander
1980's Dalton Hilliard
1990's Kevin Faulk
1900's Clearance Smith
1910's Likely H.F. Flanagan
1920's Maybe C.A. Ives
1930's Jesse Fatheree
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:31 pm to Madking
You are wrong about no one in football thinking guide is better. I know that for 100 percent certainty. As for as who is better. Let's see a little more before we decide. I'm sure we can agree both are very good players. When you say that one player is defiantly better than other and you aren't open to listening to someone else's opinion you come off as an arrogant prick.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:51 pm to LSUBeaux88
People may have taken you seriously and engaged in "educated debate" (though I'm not sure that's exactly what goes on around here) if you weren't asinine enough to say Fournette may be the most overrated back in NCAA history
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:14 pm to DREADS r SICK
Name a football person, a coach or scout who's said Guice is better than Fournette. And I never said I wasn't open to listening to any data feedback that proved otherwise in fact I asked for it multiple times a-hole. I also never said one was far better than the other somebody else did I said their stats weren't close to equal yet which is true so next time you wanna cast insults try getting your facts straight.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:33 pm to Madking
quote:
You're right and before last season Guice avged less than 2 yards per carry vs ranked opponents.
This is wrong. Sports-reference.com has game logs for Guice available here: LINK /
Note that Guice's lowest single-game yards per carry (in a game that he had any carries) was 2.0. Without even looking into which teams were ranked, it is immediately clear that he must have averaged at least 2.0 yards per carry against ranked teams. Digging a bit deeper, here are the games from 2015 against a ranked opponent: Auburn; Florida; Alabama; Ole Miss. Guice's total stats in those four games: 9 carries for 62 yards. That is just under 7 yards per carry.
quote:
How did Guice do vs Bama? Compare their numbers vs all ranked teams and get back to me.
Guice's career numbers against ranked opponents: 109 carries, 633 yards, 7 TDs.
LF7's: 201 carries, 1158 yards, 9 TDs
Both backs have an average of 5.8 yards per carry against ranked opponents, which is a pretty cool coincidence. Guice's touchdown numbers are a bit better on a per carry basis, but that has more to do with opportunity than anything else, so I don't read too much into it.
In the past I've compared running backs against the rushing defenses they've played against on a per carry basis; it takes a little longer to go through, but I'll take a look at it and post results if this thread is still going.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:44 pm to ChewyDante
Dominick Davis was easily the most talented back in 2000's. Was easily proven in the pro's when Toefield couldn't even stay in the league
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:55 pm to Tiger1988
quote:
2000's - Hester
LSU fans lose all common sense when it comes to Hester
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:58 pm to tigger1
quote:I've personally seen all those guys play in pros from my original list. Don't remember if my dad took me when I was in nutville to a game in the 40's.
Old Dude's LSU's Best Backs from each Decade
1940's Steve Van Buren
1950's Billy Cannon
1960's Jerry Stovall
1970's Charles Alexander
1980's Dalton Hilliard
1990's Kevin Faulk
1900's Clearance Smith
1910's Likely H.F. Flanagan
1920's Maybe C.A. Ives
1930's Jesse Fatheree
Thanks for adding to the list!
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 6:14 am
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:05 pm to Tiger1988
No consideration for Terrance McGee at all in the 2000's? 
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:15 pm to Bayou
He wasn't in that decade for one
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:20 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Broussard was the best in the 2000's. Had he not gotten hurt...
I love me some Alley, but if we're going the never got injured route, give me Toe. Hell I might go Toe for the 00s anyway.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:01 pm to Lsupimp
I don't know if I've ever seen a running back hit a hole as hard as Addai did.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 12:11 am to kylesch87
lol looks like we were both wrong. It's actually 11 carries for 68 yards not 9 for 62 in 2015.
Aub - 6-55
Fla - 2-5
Bama - 1-2
Ole miss - 2-6
Aub - 6-55
Fla - 2-5
Bama - 1-2
Ole miss - 2-6
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 1:20 am
Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:42 am to LSUBeaux88
quote:
Buga is the most overrated back in LSU history..
LF'S records at lsu
every freshman rushing record
he led the sec in all purpose yards as a true freshman.
every single season rushing record besides YPC.
He was the 1st sec rb to lead the ncaa in rushing simce 1949.
only someone that doesnt know shite about football would say LF is overrated.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:44 am to LSUBeaux88
are you under the impression that Guice didn't run behind the same line?
how can you prop Guice up and diminish LF when they ran behind the same line?
how can you prop Guice up and diminish LF when they ran behind the same line?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 4:16 am to Madking
quote:
lol looks like we were both wrong. It's actually 11 carries for 68 yards not 9 for 62 in 2015.
Aub - 6-55
Fla - 2-5
Bama - 1-2
Ole miss - 2-6
Where are you getting your stats? ESPN.com, sports-reference.com, and lsusports.net all have Guice with 0 carries against Bama, and 1 carry against Ole Miss.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 7:22 am to LSUBeaux88
[quote]LSUBeaux88
Buga is the most overrated back in LSU history...maybe NCAA history. Yeah sure, he destroyed Syracuse....demolished an Auburn defense that wasn't worth shite and of course ran through that soft arse Aggie D. J.D. Moore was the reason LF7 looked so great. Watch every run with Moore and every run without Moore. night and day. Guice is far more talented and it is not even close.
Buga is the most overrated back in LSU history...maybe NCAA history. Yeah sure, he destroyed Syracuse....demolished an Auburn defense that wasn't worth shite and of course ran through that soft arse Aggie D. J.D. Moore was the reason LF7 looked so great. Watch every run with Moore and every run without Moore. night and day. Guice is far more talented and it is not even close.
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 7:24 am
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