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Posted on 12/5/19 at 10:02 am to LouisianaLonghorn
I agree, I'm not sure they will though. The committee doesn't punish teams too harshly for losing conference championships.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 10:17 am to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
This was Supermoto Tiger's post:
That is what I was originally replying to by bringing in the computer rankings. Then you mentioned the BCS rankings, so I responded to you that the BCS is mostly just combining the two human polls. If that is what you want to do just don't use the BCS at all, combine the two human polls. If you want to use computers use computers. Pick something and stick to it. Don't hate the AP in 2003 when they pick USC as the champs and love the AP in 2019 when they have LSU #1.
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I totally agree about using rankings when the teams played. I think incorporating both may be better. Most importantly, get rid of the fricking eyeball OPINION and replace that with a computer ranking like the BCS used.
That is what I was originally replying to by bringing in the computer rankings. Then you mentioned the BCS rankings, so I responded to you that the BCS is mostly just combining the two human polls. If that is what you want to do just don't use the BCS at all, combine the two human polls. If you want to use computers use computers. Pick something and stick to it. Don't hate the AP in 2003 when they pick USC as the champs and love the AP in 2019 when they have LSU #1.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 10:20 am to kylesch87
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Then you mentioned the BCS rankings, so I responded to you that the BCS is mostly just combining the two human polls
That's just not true.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 10:23 am to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Four factors went into the BCS rankings.
1. The average ranking of the AP (before they left the BCS) and Coaches polls
2. A formula based on Jeff Sagarin's computer rankings
3.A calculation derived from the cumulative won-lost records of the team’s opponents and those of the team’s opponents’ opponents
4.The team’s record. Each loss adds 1 point to the total
1. The average ranking of the AP (before they left the BCS) and Coaches polls
2. A formula based on Jeff Sagarin's computer rankings
3.A calculation derived from the cumulative won-lost records of the team’s opponents and those of the team’s opponents’ opponents
4.The team’s record. Each loss adds 1 point to the total
Posted on 12/5/19 at 10:24 am to The
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Four factors went into the BCS rankings.
1. The average ranking of the AP (before they left the BCS) and Coaches polls
2. A formula based on Jeff Sagarin's computer rankings
3.A calculation derived from the cumulative won-lost records of the team’s opponents and those of the team’s opponents’ opponents
4.The team’s record. Each loss adds 1 point to the total
There were several iterations of BCS rankings.
This was not the most recent one.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 10:30 am to El Campo Tiger
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I can’t really get on the bandwagon with you TD posters in regards to, “LSU no doubt should be No.1.”

Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:21 pm to Buckeye06
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False
OSU is #1 in the simulated BCS
Mmmmmnope. LSU has 0.9780 and OSU has a 0.9691
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:23 pm to El Campo Tiger
Cincy won’t drop out of the top 25 for losing to Memphis.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:25 pm to KosmoCramer
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There were several iterations of BCS rankings.
This was not the most recent one.
There were 2 iterations.
Here's the most recent one. Again, an aggregation of a bunch of shite which you have roundly rejected as true. But, you know, again, you're incorrect.
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In response to the controversy created by the voters in the AP poll naming USC as the No. 1 ranked team at the end of 2003, when the BCS system had selected LSU and Oklahoma to play for the title,[15] the formula was rewritten. Supporters of USC and the media in general criticized the fact that polls were not weighted more heavily than computer rankings and this criticism led to the new three part algorithm.
AP Poll (2004) / Harris Interactive Poll (2005–2013): A team's score in the poll was divided by the maximum number of points any team would have received if all voting members had ranked that team as Number 1.
Coaches' Poll: A team's score in the Coaches' poll was divided by the maximum number of points any team would have received if all voting members had ranked that team as Number 1.
Computer Average: The BCS used six ranking systems: Jeff Sagarin, Anderson & Hester, Richard Billingsley, Colley Matrix, Kenneth Massey, and Dr. Peter Wolfe. Points were assigned in inverse order of ranking from 1 to 25. A team's highest and lowest computer ranking was discarded from figuring a team's computer poll average. The four remaining computer scores were averaged and the total was calculated as a percentage of 100.[16]
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:25 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Mmmmmnope. LSU has 0.9780 and OSU has a 0.9691

Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:26 pm to LoveThatMoney
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Here's the most recent one. Again, an aggregation of a bunch of shite which you have roundly rejected as true. But, you know, again, you're incorrect.
What the frick does this even mean?
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:30 pm to KosmoCramer
Why are you here even attempting to argue???? Bottom line for the number one seed for LSU is a blowout of UGA and a really close game by OSU winning or an OSU loss.i mean nothing else needs to be said.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:33 pm to dukke v
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Bottom line for the number one seed for LSU is a blowout of UGA and a really close game by OSU winning or an OSU loss.
Not really.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:34 pm to KosmoCramer
Oh please tell me what it is then.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:35 pm to El Campo Tiger
How about top 10 victories.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:35 pm to dukke v
Ohio State has one more top 25 win than LSU.
Doubtful that changes.
If Ohio State wins, they're #1.
Doubtful that changes.
If Ohio State wins, they're #1.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:41 pm to Fonzarelli
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Texas Florida Auburn Alabama A&M Georgia Clemson Ohio State No team has ever had a season where they beat a similar listing of teams like this before. If they had, I'd like to see it.
Not to jinx us but 2011 was being talked about as one of the greatest seasons ever until the title game. We destroyed Va Tech (they were good back then) and ran over a top 5 West Virginia at their place, not to mention running thru the SEC undefeated.
No worries about that same ending this time but yes this could be a historic season IF we finish it off with the natty.
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:43 pm to KosmoCramer
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Ohio State has one more top 25 win than LSU.
Doubtful that changes.
If Ohio State wins, they're #1.
Beating BCS #4 over you beating BCS #9 isn’t enough to make up the .0009 difference in our BCS rankings? I would think with the point differential between Ga and Wisc that’s gotta move the needle a bit, no?
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:45 pm to El Campo Tiger
Problem is that LSU'S 3 victories trumps OSU'S 4 victories. That shows how soft the Big 10 are.
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