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Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:29 am to MOT
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This is another good point. Lee does get the ball out much quicker than Jefferson who holds the ball too long and has (or had if it has been corrected) a slow release to boot. But when the first read isn't there Lee goes into total panic mode, gets happy feet, and throws the ball up for grabs off his back foot....as opposed to Jefferson who can scramble and still possibly make something out of the play.
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Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:29 am to MastrShake
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Lee is possible failure. JJ is guaranteed failure.
c'mon now, Shake. there's just as much chance for chaos/ failure with either. JJ might turn in an Ole Miss/ Bama/ A&M performance, or he might throw out a UT, or 4 total yds. Lee might throw out UF or UT then turn around and go 4-12. and too often either will be up and down in the same game.
I'm sad now.
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:29 am to Elleshoe
I would have liked a more open competition for the job. The people expecting JJ to have a jason campbell like turnaround are going to be massively disappointed. Under JJ whoever is calling the plays will always be handcuffed by his lack of abilities.
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:29 am to MOT
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This is not a pro-Jefferson post, so try to get past the Jefferson comparison and look at Lee's performance on its own. It is nothing to get excited about.
..then we should just bench both and start Mett and take the good with the bad; because we know his ceiling is much higher than both JJ and JL.
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:30 am to Rudy40
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I would disagree Lee actually seems to go through his progressions and gets in trouble when he gets pressure and hasnt gotten to an open receiver in his reads.
We can discuss the number of reads all day, but the point remains he starts to panic the longer he holds the ball, pressure or no pressure. If it isn't a quick pass it becomes an adventure.
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:31 am to JJ27
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You're better than this.
do you mean because he practiced with all of the other new players? I'm assuming the coaches wanted a QB who sort of had a clue what a college practice is supposed to be like working with the young guys...
This post was edited on 8/14/11 at 10:32 am
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:31 am to JJ27
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My question is how was Mett supposed to progress as fast as needed if he wasn't even allowed to practice with the varsity?
as I've stated before, all of this is just speculation based on rumblings I've heard and from a few of Miles comments, but it seems Mett hasn't taken his challenge seriously...and if we know anything about Miles, you're not going to coast your way through and earn a real shot. Even if this isn't true, you still have to earn the right to challenge the incumbent by working your way up from the bottom of the chart.
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:31 am to MOT
Sure I did,,, but some would argue thats his attempt to try to make a play...regardelss if not for 2008 this assumption WOULD NOT be made about JLEE.
But what I really saw was a qb that has come a long ways since 2008.
JJ on the other hand hasnt come very far at all, matter of fact some would argue the kid has gone backwards.
But what I really saw was a qb that has come a long ways since 2008.
JJ on the other hand hasnt come very far at all, matter of fact some would argue the kid has gone backwards.
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:32 am to LSUAlum2001
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..then we should just bench both and start Mett and take the good with the bad; because we know his ceiling is much higher than both JJ and JL.
You would think that would be obvious to all including the staff. I personally think with the type of power running game LSU will have you want a good passer to offset it what does a running qb give to a running team who defenses will play 8 in the box?
I think Mett starting with Lee as a backup would be a solid recipe!
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:33 am to Elleshoe
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but yes, he still practiced with the varsity
Not at the beginning of the fall camp. There were video/pics and Mett was nowhere to be seen. There were several threads about his absence.
This post was edited on 8/14/11 at 10:34 am
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:34 am to Rudy40
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Obviously that isnt the plan this year. Miles has been going with this JJ PR campaign since April and I am guessing he is doing everything he can to protect JJ's fragile ego!
Competition would upset JJ!
let's try to keep this on an adult level...
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:36 am to ForeLSU
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let's try to keep this on an adult level...
Do you really disagree that Jefferson has a fragile ego? Even RS was quoted as saying JJ's problems were all mental!
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:37 am to MOT
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This is another good point. Lee does get the ball out much quicker than Jefferson who holds the ball too long and has (or had if it has been corrected) a slow release to boot. But when the first read isn't there Lee goes into total panic mode, gets happy feet, and throws the ball up for grabs off his back foot....as opposed to Jefferson who can scramble and still possibly make something out of the play.
We see the "Jordan can make things happen with his legs" argument here a lot. Supposedly it keeps the offense moving. My question to that would be, if this is true why was the offense in 2008 superior to 2009 and 2010?
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:39 am to Rudy40
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Do you really disagree that Jefferson has a fragile ego? Even RS was quoted as saying JJ's problems were all mental!
I don't know if he does or not, I've never met him...but the implication that Miles isn't going to allow anyone to challenge JJ because he doesn't want JJ to get his feelings hurt is dumb.
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:41 am to ForeLSU
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I don't know if he does or not, I've never met him...but the implication that Miles isn't going to allow anyone to challenge JJ because he doesn't want JJ to get his feelings hurt is dumb.
Really because Miles has sure done alot to pump up JJ's ego and virtually assure everyone JJ was the solid starter since day 1 of spring practice. Wouldnt seem like he gave any opportunity for Lee or Mett to beat him out!
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:43 am to ForeLSU
You dont think it is telling when one of the starting WR's is quoted as sayng JJ's biggest problem is mental?
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:47 am to Rudy40
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Really because Miles has sure done alot to pump up JJ's ego and virtually assure everyone JJ was the solid starter since day 1 of spring practice. Wouldnt seem like he gave any opportunity for Lee or Mett to beat him out!
I don't see a problem with the coach touting his probable starter, he's made similar comments about many players, he said yesterday that Loston has really come on...does Loston have a fragile ego?
I don't think Lee had a shot to begin with, and I think Mett had to come on strong to challenge. Did you really expect Les to say "we don't have a starter, all are tied for 3rd, may the best man win"?
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:48 am to ForeLSU
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Did you really expect Les to say "we don't have a starter, all are tied for 3rd, may the best man win"?
No, but Krags did.
Posted on 8/14/11 at 10:49 am to Rudy40
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You dont think it is telling when one of the starting WR's is quoted as sayng JJ's biggest problem is mental?
struggling with the mental aspects of the game are different than having a fragile ego that can't withstand competition from other players.
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