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re: Official Insecure-U vs tFlagship Smack Talk Thread

Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:32 am to
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:32 am to
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Why does the University of Louisiana System website as well as the official ULL website add the "at Lafayette" in every single instance that the school name is seen, yet the fans think it is called anything else? I just don't understand the logic.


Yeah, you aren't going to see the UL or Louisiana on any official document but the University does use it publically in a lot of ways. Just take a look at our baseball uniforms this weekend. I am not an expert on the name thing so I can't argue legal stuff or any of that shite with you but I am astounded by how much you people are obsessed over our name. Hopefully this weekend we can finally give you those 2 L's you've always been asking for. Geaux Louisiana!
Posted by Drakeo1990
Member since Mar 2015
308 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:38 am to
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I am astounded by how much you people are obsessed over our name.



Coming from the person who quoted someone and changed ULL to UL.
Posted by Acadien
Member since Nov 2008
3571 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:38 am to
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Hopefully this weekend we can finally give you those 2 L's you've always been asking for.


You're giving us both "L"s? So now you'll just be "University?" You're going to pretend you're America's flagship now too?

ETA: I'm going to put Miami on high alert. DEFCON 1, the coonasses are coming for The U.
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 11:40 am
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27687 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:40 am to
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I am astounded by how much you people are obsessed over our name


It just baffles me how any of you could think that you are anything but ULL, considering that is the name that is placed on your diplomas and any other legal documents.

And I think between the LSU fanbase and the ULL fanbase, the latter is MUCH more obsessed over the name. Can't wait for ULL fans to implode on social media whenever they are referred to as "ULL" on ESPN.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
21958 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:51 am to
This thread is silly. I am gonna make it sillier.

A lot of ULL fans remind me of Jan Brady.

Older sibling is gorgeous, extremely popular, and wins at EVERYTHING. They see Marsha's 47 trophies and instead of feeling a little pride, it makes them SAD :(

When they think back on the 22 times in a row they competed and lost (988-25) or think about an athletic department that turns a profit and contributes millions to academics without subsidies or student activity fees, they get RESENTFUL ("tigers, tigers, TIGERS!").

As Mike would say "Take pride in your own achievements, like multiple 3rd tier bowl appearances and waterskiing titles, Don't try to be Marsha," But, that advice just doesn't help.

Sorry, ULL. You're not gonna win the big essay contest this Saturday, either, but maybe folks will admire you for being spunky.

Feel proud. Or you could eat a snickers.
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 11:52 am
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1668 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:04 pm to
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And I think between the LSU fanbase and the UL fanbase, the latter is MUCH more obsessed over the name. Can't wait for UL fans to implode on social media whenever they are referred to as "ULL" on ESPN.


Yeah, perhaps UL cares more about its own name than LSU does. It's questionable which is somewhat pathetic on LSU's part. It works both ways on social media. Anytime UL is referred to as UL or Louisiana by anyone on social media they are sure to be multiple LSU fans bitching and crying about it.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:08 pm to
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I honestly would prefer that the university stays out of the minds of the LSU redneck trash.


I could post thousands upon thousands of pictures of people in ULL attire during baseball season then the same person wearing LSU stuff in the fall. Maybe the "LSU redneck trash" are just the ULL baseball fans in spring.

Maybe that explains why LSU baseball fans are considerably more classy than the football fans.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7128 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:09 pm to
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As Mike would say "Take pride in your own achievements, like multiple 3rd tier bowl appearances and waterskiing titles, Don't try to be Marsha," But, that advice just doesn't help.


This is where the big misconception comes in. You see, we are proud to have some success in our athletic programs. We have done a lot with only a $20 million budget and hope to accomplish more in the future as that number grows. The problem is that for every accomplishment we have, we get the proud privilege of being reminded that we are "trying to be LSU" or that we have to "know our place." And it's mostly the ignorant Tiger fans who fellow Tiger fans pay no mind to. Unfortunately, there's too many of them. You know, the ones who latch on to a college team to cover up their miserable lives. They're like the Gumps, just not as many. But that's where the so-called "aggravation with LSU fans" comes in with our fanbase. At least from what I notice.

It's a double-edged sword. I remember last year when a Tiger fan starting a thread on the rant complaining that we were #1 in the polls in baseball. I mean, seriously? You have six national titles to our zero. Can we just enjoy our moment without that type nonsense?

I've said this many times before. I personally don't care what LSU does. They win, good job. They lose, hey it happens. I worry about what we do.
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
75476 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:09 pm to
tLSU got dis.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27687 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:10 pm to
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Anytime UL is referred to as UL or Louisiana by anyone on social media they are sure to be multiple LSU fans laughing about it.


FIFY. Your program is a joke to us.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:16 pm to
This is what literally makes no fricking sense to me..

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aggravation with LSU fans" comes in with our fanbase


Your fanbase becomes a one big freakin Chameleon. It turns purple and gold every fall.

The only reason there are any people at all in your stadium is because

A) They are part of the small hardcore ULL fanbase
B) They couldn't get tickets to the LSU Game
C) LSU is on the road

You cant tell me you have never been at a ULL football game and everyone around you was not checking the score to the LSU game or know people that missed the ULL game to watch the LSU game on TV.
This post was edited on 6/4/15 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Acadien
Member since Nov 2008
3571 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:18 pm to
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t's a double-edged sword. I remember last year when a Tiger fan starting a thread on the rant complaining that we were #1 in the polls in baseball. I mean, seriously? You have six national titles to our zero. Can we just enjoy our moment without that type nonsense?


People are silly. Trying to get to the bottom of disputes between fans is like asking a group of 100 people to sit down and decide whether the Palestinians or the Israelis are ultimately responsible for violence in the region. I.e., it's like putting your dick in a blender.

My mom went to USL. Numerous aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. Acadiana is what makes Louisiana the most unique place in the entire country - and USL/ULL/UL/whatever is a great, affordable school for kids in the region to attend and get an excellent education. Their success isn't our loss. Frankly, I wish we were in the same System.

But shooting the shite about in-state (spiritual, if not athletic) rivals is fun. So frick you guys!
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45683 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:19 pm to
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perhaps UL cares more about its own name than LSU does.


Go look at every single thread on Ragin Pagin, yall care entirely too much.
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1668 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:20 pm to
Wait, I am confused. Do we all hate LSU or do we support them in athletics? You people really need to get together and come up with one narrative/agenda. Y'all are starting to contradict each other.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7128 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

The only reason there are any people at all in your stadium is because

A) They are part of the small hardcore ULL fanbase



True

quote:

B) They couldn't get tickets to the LSU Game


Come on, now. It's not that hard to get tickets to a game unless a good SEC school comes to town. I've seen the number of threads full of complaints of all of the empty seats in the stadium come game time, especially for SEC games outside of Bama and Ole Miss.

quote:

C) LSU is on the road


This really doesn't affect us like it used to at all.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27687 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:21 pm to
So I realize I'm going back a little ways in this thread, but I actually found the topic interesting and was doing a little research on the whole topic of "flagship" universities and how they are designated.

After giving a long and detailed explanation of how national organizations determine what a flagship is, I was told that that system of determination is "a joke" and they needed to see some sort of legal documentation that proves it.

quote:

I can only assume that the 'flagship' title was given to itself by LSU, since I have never been able to find where in the legislature the designation was given or even better, 'earned'.


Frankly, the information I provided was more than enough to prove my point, but again, I found the subject interesting, so I kept searching. I came across this site, which may give Joe the "proof" he wants, or at a least a lead on where he can find it.

quote:

An intriguing story can be found in the Bayou State. Louisiana is a state that much like Ohio, is dominated in the public eye by the premiere state university. Louisiana State University might have just as much political favor as they do fan favor. In 1984, University of Southwestern Louisiana, changed their name to the University of Louisiana with the blessing of the then Board of Trustees for State Colleges and Universities (now The University of Louisiana System Board of Supervisors). As the largest school in the UL system, the name change made sense to most, but it did not hold up. Shortly after the name change was processed, The Louisiana Board of Regents filed suit with the Board of Trustees. Twenty-five days later, District Judge William H. Brown stripped the University of Louisiana name and forced them back to the University of Southwestern Louisiana name. The suit also removed the ability for future name changes by the Board of Trustees.

In order for any future name changes to take place, it meant compromise. And the only compromise to the seemingly impossible blockade by the Louisiana Board of Regents came in the form of Act 45. This compromise has been called the LSU Rule as it would force schools such as University of Southwestern Louisiana and Northeast Louisiana University to agree to put LSU on a virtual pedestal within the state of Louisiana. ACT 45 required that at least two state universities change their name at the same time and that all universities who change their name change it to University of Louisiana at [city designation]. It stipulated that the city designation must be used in all official university business and has since grown far beyond its original legislative language, to regulate minute details such as font sizes to be used by the respective universities. Additionally, the bill insisted that LSU was, and would remain, the flagship university of Louisiana. This was a strange legislative act with little tie-in to LSU or the LSU System. The act also changed the name of the Board of Trustees to the University of Louisiana Board of Supervisors.

In 1999, fifteen years after the first attempt at a name change, University of Southwestern Louisiana became the University of Louisiana-Lafayette and Northeast Louisiana University became University of Louisiana-Monroe. While the change was not entirely what USL was looking for, it did allow them to finally drop the directional school label. - See more at: https://collegesportsinfo.com/2007/11/30/university-name-changes-and-the-marketing-impact/#sthash.33NXOJVu.dpuf


If you go to legis.state.la.us, you'll see that the Archives online only date back to 1997. So Joe, being that I am a solid 1,300 miles away from the Capitol building, if you'd really like to see the legal documentation, I recommend you go to the Archives in the Capitol and request a physical copy of ACT 45.

Anywho, back to whatever non-baseball related trash talk we are currently debating.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45683 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Can we just enjoy our moment without that type nonsense?


Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:22 pm to
An Aggie friend of mine is reading this thread and thinks it's hilarious.

He told me to say that USL to LSU is like Texas Tech to UT & Texas A&M....a second rate school with a fifth rate fanbase.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:25 pm to
What are you confused about??

I would venture to guess that at least 80% of ULL fans are also hardcore LSU football fans. The other 20% are hardcore ULL fans that root for Bama.

20% of you hate LSU with every bone in your body. The rest are hardcore LSU fans that will only not pull for LSU unless they are playing each other in baseball. Calling LSU fans trashy or redneck is a nonsensical argument.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 12:28 pm to
D) They didn't want to pay for parking, sit in traffic or LSU is playing DIRECTION STATE

Better??
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