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re: Official Grand Jury Prediction Thread
Posted on 9/22/11 at 11:50 am to Mayhawman
Posted on 9/22/11 at 11:50 am to Mayhawman
I agree that this is entertaining at the least, but how does what happens actually impact the team. IF it goes to trial, JJ does not play this year, IF is gets dropped, JJ has not been practicing with the team - do you think he would be more effective than JL? SO the question IMHO is both IF he will play and SHOULD he play. JL is the QB now - and Mett probably next year.
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Posted on 9/22/11 at 11:54 am to Mayhawman
quote:I honestly didn't mean to attempt to skew the results.
Also I find it odd you revealed your vote, and reasoning for it, in the poll.
Probably not done purposely, but not exactly a "scientific" poll when this could be seen as suggestive.
I guess I've just been trained by TD to offer an opinion when you pose a question in the OP of a thread.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:04 pm to just me
Plea bargain to a misdemeanor, no trial. JJ does not play this year, but is on the roster for next year.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:07 pm to TexasTiger1228
quote:Pretty naivie to think it wouldn't be better to have JJ on the team instead of on trial.
how does what happens actually impact the team.
We are about to step up in class against much better Ds soon.
If the run and pass from pro set O fails, what would be our options? JL has done a good job, but read isn't his forte.
Some people are just afraid that Lee might lose the start, which I reaaly doubt.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:11 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
quote:
Think the case has enough evidence to go to trial.
I think he gets off and will not play another snap for LSU.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:18 pm to just me
I doubt Hillar Moore completely dumps the case which to me means he's going to be indicted. It will be interesting as it appears Moore is going out of his way to appear impartial and allowing the process to be transparent.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:18 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:
Curious to learn, but seems it would be so... wouldn't ant testimony by JJ before a grand jury be admissable in court if he is indicted?
Yes sir..
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:22 pm to TROLA
quote:Sending this to GJ doesn't mean he's already dumped it in a sense?
I doubt Hillar Moore completely dumps the case
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:33 pm to just me
quote:
Personally, I think Jefferson gets indicted. The burden of proof is too low to not get indicted.
You may be right. And I agree with you on the burden of proof, the evidence is there to get the GJ to indict.
However, I predict a no true bill. How the evidence is presented is going to be a huge factor, and I don't think the AD wants to go to trial.
Look at the circumstances:
1. This is going to the GJ. That's exactly what an AD would do with a felony battery case if they wanted it to go away.
2. The prosecution is allowing defense testimony, defense witnesses, and defense evidence. Why would the prosecution even allow these things if they wanted to charge Jefferson?
3. The GJ will hear witness from both sides. That is the extent of the evidence to be presented. Why would the GJ believe on side over another?
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:39 pm to just me
quote:
I honestly didn't mean to attempt to skew the results.
The hundreds of tiger fans who vote in your poll will now have biased opinions.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:40 pm to Mayhawman
quote:...and, yet, his vote has not swayed the majority, so far.
Probably not done purposely, but not exactly a "scientific" poll when this could be seen as suggestive.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:44 pm to TigerWoody
quote:Most rantards are pretty steadfast to their beliefs.
...and, yet, his vote has not swayed the majority, so far.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:46 pm to just me
quote:
No jail time, but will not play another snap for LSU.
The biggest travesty of this whole sordid affair.[/quote]
Agreed!
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:49 pm to LandOwners
quote:
Think the case has enough evidence to go to trial.
I think he will likely plea the charges down before trial though.
No jail time, but will not play another snap for LSU.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:56 pm to LadyRPTiger
Most here including me don't have enough info to make any kind of an intelligent guess. We don't even know what evidence they have.
First there are 10 witnesses and 8 are saying JJ kicked Lowery. Now supposedly according to JJ lawyer there are only 2 that say it was JJ and many that say it was not. Which is it.
We all watched the video in the early days and assumed that jj was suppose to be the kicker in all black. Then video shows jj in a white shirt. But there is a second person that may have kicked Lowery that is in white. At first the video was used to prove he was guilty. Then some say wrong shirt innocent. We don't even know which guy in the video black shirt/white shirt is suppose to JJ according to Lowery.
They are presenting tons of evidence that we don't have the scoop on.
In the end half the people here will say I told you so and the vast majority of them will be right simply by chance!
First there are 10 witnesses and 8 are saying JJ kicked Lowery. Now supposedly according to JJ lawyer there are only 2 that say it was JJ and many that say it was not. Which is it.
We all watched the video in the early days and assumed that jj was suppose to be the kicker in all black. Then video shows jj in a white shirt. But there is a second person that may have kicked Lowery that is in white. At first the video was used to prove he was guilty. Then some say wrong shirt innocent. We don't even know which guy in the video black shirt/white shirt is suppose to JJ according to Lowery.
They are presenting tons of evidence that we don't have the scoop on.
In the end half the people here will say I told you so and the vast majority of them will be right simply by chance!
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:56 pm to bee Rye
quote:...raises hand.
Surprised that many people think a no true bill will happen
I think MOST people don't quite understand how a grand jury works.
Which reminds me? The usual suspects in all threads in which JJ and this case are mentioned have not yet appeared. Interesting.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 12:57 pm to omegaman66
quote:
First there are 10 witnesses and 8 are saying JJ kicked Lowery.
Where are you getting those numbers?
Posted on 9/22/11 at 1:11 pm to just me
quote:
Jefferson gets a no true bill
Moore is an elected official and he won't push the issue like Melvin's chief.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 1:23 pm to just me
Meh, probably gets thrown out and they get a simple battery charge from the DA
Posted on 9/22/11 at 1:29 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
First there are 10 witnesses and 8 are saying JJ kicked Lowery.
Where are you getting those numbers?
First set was in the first week here on TD. Second set came from a quote from JJ's lawyer posted here on TD yesterday or the day before. I forget.
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