re: Official CROW eating thread - Coleman

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The way Coleman pitched last year why is anyone doubting him?

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its not "doubting" him

its concern that he will get hurt

Day 3: Work off mound in bullpen -10-12 minutes - 60 to 65% velocity.

Okay so this is what this guy says you should do in his opinion. Does not mean it is a set standard to all of baseball. Plus 10-12 minutes bullpen session you are talking 3-4 pitches per minute. On top of all the pitches you threw warming up prior to the game. Coleman had a set amount of pitches he was going to throw and be pulled as we saw on Friday. So we have all these guys on here questioning the coaches decision and he came away with two wins because of his decision. So question the move all you want but he proved everyone wrong who doubted his call by getting a win Friday and Sunday. Obviously there was a set amount of pitches they wanted to work Coleman Friday and they pulled him when he reached it. It helped LSU out Friday he did a good job today so face it you all were wrong who questioned the call. Coleman is not hurt and LSU has two more wins to add to their record.

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Out of 7 weekend series Coleman has only started 2 Saturday games. And those two Saturday games came after a Friday loss. 2 out of 7 doesn't make him our Saturday starter. Mainieri has stated since before the season that Coleman would be our main closer and would possibly come back to start the Sunday games if needed. That routine/plan changed the 2 times LSU lost their opening game of a series (South Carolina and Ole Miss).

We were winning Friday, thus Mainieri went back to his original plan of pitching Coleman as a closer Friday, possible Sunday starter.

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This makes sense.

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We were winning Friday, thus Mainieri went back to his original plan of pitching Coleman as a closer Friday, possible Sunday starter.

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but ott has emerged as the closer which allows lsu to be consistent with its rotation.

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do any of the people questioning the decision to bring Coleman in with an 8 run lead realize after Ranaudo left, we needed 9 outs, Coleman gets 7 of those on 24 pitches, and by the time we got those final two outs Nicholson gave up 3 runs on 3 hits (including a homerun) and Bertuccini gave up a double before recording his one out. So to say that against the UGA offense it's such a no-brainer that the 8-run lead would've held that Coleman absolutely shouldn't have thrown 24 pitches seems a bit naive

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sorry, but if we cant hold an 8 run lead with bertuccini, bradshaw, byrd, ott, whatever combination you want, then we dont deserve to win

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and by the time we got those final two outs Nicholson gave up 3 runs on 3 hits (including a homerun) and Bertuccini gave up a double before recording his one out.

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you really think Nicholson would be the normal reliever instead of Coleman?

i think that everybody realizes that, but 8 runs is a ton

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but ott has emerged as the closer which allows lsu to be consistent with its rotation.

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Maybe, but it was sure nerve wracking last Saturday when he gave up 3 runs in the top of the 9th against Ole Miss with a 6-2 lead.

Let me offer a different viewpoint: Mainieri was experimenting.

When we get to post-season play, PM is going to need to know exactly what his pitchers can do. I agree with everyone who says that, in terms of winning the game Friday, it wasn't necessary for Coleman to pitch. The only way that it makes sense (and I certainly don't believe that PM is dumb) is that this series, against the #1 ranked team in the country, was pressure-filled and was a good opportunity to see exactly how LC would do when most others' arms would be dead.

Now, when we get to the CWS (anybody not think we're going at this point?), PM will know that he can push LC and still get good pitching.

Actually, I think this post deserves its own thread.

PM just got through mentioning in the radio show on Monday night that he liked to play a more conservative minded strategy than alot of baseball coaches.
He even went so far as to explain how he will disagree with his own father at times ( Somebody called in with a question as to whether Ott made a mental error when he threw to first to get the easy out instead of going to second and getting the lead runner in the top of the Ninth of the Ole Miss game on Sunday, in this instance, PM explained that he actually teaches all his pitchers to get the sure out out at first on the bunt rather then make the long throw to second to get the lead runner and risk an error and a runner on second and third with no outs. He acknowledged he was more concerned with getting the out, and that he was confident in his pitching staff to still close the game out, and if the run came in, that in the the bottom of the ninth he has confident in his hitters. he acknoweldge his own father disagreed with his choice on this scenario)

I mention that to say his decision putting Coleman in on Friday does in fact seem unconventional to alot of the popular strategies. but PM knows this and doesn't care what you or anyone else thinks (including his own father). And as we all know his strategy seems to work alot of the time (2 out of 3 this weekend and CWS last year).

So my advice is to quit second guessing his decisions and let the man coach, this probably isn't the last time he will make an unconventional call but I think he understands what he it is doing and it is obviously carefully planned for, so everybody just relax and let the man do his thing. He is definatly not gonna change his techniques and strategy just cause some internet experts on conventional baseball think he's wrong.He is going to keep coaching the way he has always done with success and he will probably keep winning a ton of games and challenging for SEC and CWS titles

P.S. it's not a mistake if it works, and winning 2 out of 3 games on the road against the #1 team was the main goal this weekend. And yes this is totally different then calling a timeout when you change a possession.