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re: "offensively, there will be a definite switch in philosophy"

Posted on 1/15/12 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 2:19 pm to
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CYA. The only thing that happened at the 'back end of the season' was Miles' stubborn refusal to let JL do anything but take Victory snaps.


I think Les already validated the "he owes JJ" theory. He is now free to run a decent offense in big games.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 2:19 pm to
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What did you say?


It doesn't matter, he thinks everything he says is dripping with greatness and we should be hanging on his every word.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 1/15/12 at 2:22 pm to
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why do you insist discussing anything except les miles and his shortcomings.i give him credit for the things he does well,but you refuse to accept the things he does poorly.why is that?



Ding.

Praise the man when he does well, but a f'king blind monk in Tibet could see we were headed for potential trouble at the end of the year. Being honest, you can praise and you can criticize. Some of these nut huggers have absolutely no room to bitch right now simply because they denied he obvious for a long time.
Posted by DaSaltyTiger
Alexandria/Pineville, LA area
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 2:44 pm to
Miles is trying to backpedel. It won't work. He needs to say and do something more meaningful to rally the crowd. Maybe he does not owe us this, but it sure would be damned good PR if handled properly.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:10 pm to
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let's just say that we were looking out for Lee's best interest.


why should he care about what Lee's best interests are any more than he care's about the best interest of any other player on the team?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:11 pm to
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why should he care about what Lee's best interests are any more than he care's about the best interest of any other player on the team?



We are well aware of your allegiance.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:16 pm to
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Then, he doesn't even let the kid who saved his season


did Lee 'save the season'? Without Lee Mettenberger is starting while Jefferson is out. On Nov. 5th Jefferson 'saved' LSU from a loss to Alabama.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:20 pm to
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did Lee 'save the season'? Without Lee Mettenberger is starting while Jefferson is out. On Nov. 5th Jefferson 'saved' LSU from a loss to Alabama.

d





Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:27 pm to
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On Nov. 5th Jefferson 'saved' LSU from a loss to Alabama. d


you think we win that game if Lee plays the whole game?

(i put one more laughing man than you)
This post was edited on 1/15/12 at 3:28 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:29 pm to
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you think we win that game if Lee plays the whole game?




Who knows? One play could have won the game in OT. Do you know for a fact that LSU couldn't have won? You JJ fanatics have already decided he won the game, nothing will convince you.
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:31 pm to
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Even Alabama knows you have to throw the ball downfield early and often at this level of football.



This is what is scary. With the Money Miles makes he should know this.



Think LSU had plays set-up for downfield, just had QB troubles getting receivers the ball.

There are a couple of tape studies going around about this.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:32 pm to
the point is that hopefully Miles is serious about throwing the ball more next season (with a QB that he trusts more to throw the ball). If not then maybe it is time to go in another coaching direction.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:33 pm to
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Do you know for a fact that LSU couldn't have won?


yes
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:33 pm to
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You JJ fanatics have already decided he won the game, nothing will convince you.


This is no different than others who say lee is personally responsible for winning those first 8 games. I think JJ helped us win against bama. He wasn't the main reason we won though.

Just like you have always said this season, this team won with great special teams, defense and field position. This team was not built for the qb to win games. It worked all season but not in the big game. I envision it to be different next season though.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:39 pm to
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This is no different than others who say lee is personally responsible for winning those first 8 games. I think JJ helped us win against bama. He wasn't the main reason we won though.



People give the QB too much credit. Both QB's have been given WAY too much credit for LSU's record the past couple of years.

quote:

Just like you have always said this season, this team won with great special teams, defense and field position. This team was not built for the qb to win games. It worked all season but not in the big game. I envision it to be different next season though.


Will see. I think anyone wanting an open offense will be disappointed. What would be nice would be to have an offense that can win the game if needed.

Get ready for it, there will be a lot more second guessing of Miles and his decision not to use Mettenberger more this year in preparation when people see him next year. I think he may have made a difference Monday.

Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:41 pm to
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why would you support the decision if you think he's not a good qb

Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42412 posts
Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:43 pm to
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Get ready for it, there will be a lot more second guessing of Miles and his decision not to use Mettenberger more this year in preparation when people see him next year. I think he may have made a difference Monday.


I don't disagree at all.

I am on record saying the best qb on the team was mett. I hope he comes out and shines next season. If he does then yes there will be a lot of second guessing. But by then it really is bitching just to bitch.

This post was edited on 1/15/12 at 3:44 pm
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:46 pm to
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Do you know for a fact that LSU couldn't have won?
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yes

The only two facts we know is that in Nov. it took 2 QBs to win (Lee getting two first downs in the 1st series got us started), and in the BCS game we only used one QB, and were embarassed

ergo, that one QB, would also have lost in Nov. BTW, LSU's offense only crossed midfield 1 time in the 2nd half. Translation - Saban had JJ figured out by halftime of the Nov. game
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 1/15/12 at 3:49 pm to
I believe Georgia had the Offense figured out. They just couldn't stop the run in the second half and LSU had incredible field position. If UGA could do it, probably a snap for Bama.

Hopefully next season the offense will be more versatile.
This post was edited on 1/15/12 at 3:51 pm
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/15/12 at 4:00 pm to
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The only two facts we know is that in Nov. it took 2 QBs to win (Lee getting two first downs in the 1st series got us started),


Holy shite. That is exactly what we needed. 2 1st downs and 2 turnovers. Because, you know, JJ gave us that all by himself on Monday and it worked out well.
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