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re: Offensive staff changes forth coming?
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:06 am to burasjr123
Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:06 am to burasjr123
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the jury is still out with coery raymond even though he's a great recruiter.
The jury is back with a verdict and I suspect it's "Guilty." Could care less about CR's recruiting ability. We need somebody in there that can recruit AND coach up the DB's. CR has been one of the "weakest" hires of the Miles era. Get a coach in there that can eliminate the Chinese Fire Drill in the defensive secondary. It's mass confusion every game.
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 5:45 am to mwade91383
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as long as they can recruit and Cam likes them as a part of this system, they're good by me.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:35 am to ForeLSU
That was a solid response by Fore. I can't believe the previous poster was serious--Sale not ready to be LSU line coach in his view. Not only is Sale definitely qualified, he should easily be an improvement over Stud. And for that matter, Kevin Mawae would also be an upgrade as OL coach.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:37 am to BRAVEHEART
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Could care less about CR's recruiting ability. We need somebody in there that can recruit AND coach up the DB's. CR has been one of the "weakest" hires of the Miles era. Get a coach in there that can eliminate the Chinese Fire Drill in the defensive secondary. It's mass confusion every game.
Please give tangible ways in which his coaching has lacked. What should he be emphasizing? How can you tell he is at fault? Is the problem the two true freshman that developed into starters this year?
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:54 am to BRAVEHEART
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We need somebody in there that can recruit AND coach up the DB's. CR has been one of the "weakest" hires of the Miles era.
Linemen get no pressure, d-backs regressing, blitz packages are ineffective, yet somehow after 12 games LSU is 16th in the nation in pass defense....hmmm
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:59 am to BRAVEHEART
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The jury is back with a verdict and I suspect it's "Guilty."
You're pathetic.
I would pay good money to have seen your face during the 99yrd drive.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:00 am to ForeLSU
DBss weren't the problem with the defense. The front 7 was. When you give up over 4 ypc and only get 24 sacks all year, the DBs will look worse than they actually are.
They had some early season mental mistakes especially against UGA, but for the most part they played well.
They had some early season mental mistakes especially against UGA, but for the most part they played well.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:34 am to EarthwormJim
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DBss weren't the problem with the defense. The front 7 was. When you give up over 4 ypc and only get 24 sacks all year, the DBs will look worse than they actually are
CR isnt going anywhere, we are lucky to have him.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:37 am to Gallant_Gringo
quote:This is what makes sense to me. Cam and Hunter have worked together and another poster confirmed that they are good friends. Plus, as LSU's Head Football Coach, Hal Hunter never lost a game.
Hal hunter coached with CC at both indiana & San Diego, got his pension now & is an asst o-line coach now, would be great to get him back
The problem for Les is making room on the staff. He has always been loyal and done far more to avoid termination than other coaches. (I won't name anyone here but his initials are 'Nick Saban'...).
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:42 am to EarthwormJim
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They had some early season mental mistakes especially against UGA, but for the most part they played well.
yep, there have been some blown zone assignments which has tended to make it look worse than it really is. The one thing the d-backfield needs is an experienced safety who can sniff plays out pre-snap and adjust accordingly. Loston just wasn't that guy. I expect the starting secondary in the bowl game will be Loston & Mills at safety, RR and TW on the corners with Thomas at nickel. This may prove to be the right combination with Thompson taking over for Loston next year.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:57 am to dgnx6
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So im saying yes, Our qb coach at the time had everything to do with these two signing with LSU. Or you can just go ahead and say it was all stud at oc that got these guys, but then that wouldnt follow the rants logic of him being a liability now would it?
Again, I'm not commenting on whether to retain Krags or not - no idea about how he's contributing now. My point is that it's not a very good argument to justify retaining a coach because a recruit or two says that coach was the reason they came to the school. Had there been a different asst the recruit may still have chosen to come or even a better recruit - who knows.
IDK how much input Mallory had in Mo's recruitment but Mo committed in 11/08 while Mallory was still the co-DC and MO was mostly shown as a DB. It's not unreasonable to think Mallory at a minimum gave some input or an OK. Chad Jones could've been substituted instead as a recruit influenced by Mallory. But the point is the same.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 12:54 pm to AlwysATgr
well, if cam wants to make changes then so be it but our offense wasn't the problem this year. Cam did a very good job but needs to look in the mirror and explain why it took so long into the season to pass to te and backs. also, why did he call a play for fb at 1 yard line in bama game with hill in backfield. I think the fb had missed the previous 2 or 3 games with injury.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:02 pm to oldschoolgreats
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Cam did a very good job but needs to look in the mirror and explain why it took so long into the season to pass to te and backs
Why does he need to explain anything? We threw RB screens the first game of the year. We just so happen to have to NFL caliber receivers who gobbled up most of the targets.
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also, why did he call a play for fb at 1 yard line in bama game with hill in backfield.
Umm, because it worked just had to hold on to the ball. FBs get plenty of carries in short yardage situations and it was succesful all year.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:07 pm to cameron789787
Bye bye barbeque face
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:17 pm to oldschoolgreats
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well, if cam wants to make changes then so be it but our offense wasn't the problem this year. Cam did a very good job but needs to look in the mirror and explain why it took so long into the season to pass to te and backs.
I'm not following your flow here.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:44 pm to AlwysATgr
I do think cam did not diversify the passing attack enough. even if you have 2 top end wr. you can't throw to them 80% of passing attempts. also, mistake to give ball to fb on 1 yard line when 1) he rarely carries the ball 2) he had just come back from injury, not in game shape or flow.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:54 pm to oldschoolgreats
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also, mistake to give ball to fb on 1 yard line when 1) he rarely carries the ball
most of his carries come in those situations. and I don't think he'd fumbled before.
also, it was from a little farther out than the 1 IIRC. he just needed to hold on to the ball.
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2) he had just come back from injury, not in game shape or flow.
maybe, maybe not. I doubt it was some randomly drawn up play, they'd probably repped it a few times leading up to the game. esp considering our failure on a short yardage play vs Bama the last yr.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 3:52 pm to oldschoolgreats
Well I guess that about does it now that every LSU coach has been shite on by the rant experts.
I hope none got left out.
/thread.
I hope none got left out.
/thread.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 4:13 pm to ForeLSU
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yep, there have been some blown zone assignments which has tended to make it look worse than it really is. The one thing the d-backfield needs is an experienced safety who can sniff plays out pre-snap and adjust accordingly. Loston just wasn't that guy. I expect the starting secondary in the bowl game will be Loston & Mills at safety, RR and TW on the corners with Thomas at nickel. This may prove to be the right combination with Thompson taking over for Loston next year.
I personally think last year's issues at DB were a bigger sign of potential issues in Raymond's coaching ability. Tons of poor play by seasoned veterans in Reid and Simon. You did have a youngin' in Mills starting though.
I think Raymond is overrated as a coach, but he does recruit well. Only time will tell if his coaching skill is an issue that will have to be remedied, but hopefully it was just an overall defensive funk.
LBers were clearly our weakest unit this year and Chavis is supposed to be a LBer guru, so I don't think this season's issues can be solely put on any single coach or player. In the end, Les will do what he thinks is best.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 11:22 pm to Gallant_Gringo
Graveyard bump
Didn't want to start a new thread. Any new developments on this?
Didn't want to start a new thread. Any new developments on this?
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