re: Offensive line still a big part of the problem

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tirebiter

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This is the issue I have with posters putting stats up on this board and not taking into context what transpired on every play. The numbers rarely tell the whole truth. I can't tell you how many times I count the time span a QB holds the ball in this offense trying to make a throwing decision. A substantial number of snaps the ball is held longer than 4 seconds, even past 5 seconds, and it is a contributing factor to lack of production - yet holding the ball rarely results in +10 yard completions.

The OL is not perfect, but they are playing quite well and are much better in both run and pass blocking. Thankfully there is no longer a midget at RG and JD put on 30 lbs. Ciron had become so ineffective that Barksdale by default is an upgrade at LT. Limiting penalties would help, but none of the OL penalties were as dumb as hitting a player 6-yards out of bounds last week.

I hate to think what would happen if Ridley went down. People are bitching it's ludicrous to even consider playing PP on offense 4-5 snaps when it could be argued that losing Ridley would decimate the team at this point while at least the secondary has three legitimate corners. What cavernous dog house is Ford chained to these days.

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well said...this man gets it...and writes it so well...

you an english teacher or something?

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and made a play action fake,

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There is now way in hell this guy is telling the truth.

Tolliver WAS NEVER DOUBLED NEVER!

He was open by 10 yards and gaining on separation. GO WATCH IT the safety played short not deep. Whomever wrote that didnt watch the play and is flat out telling a lie.

just me, there are two sacks in the game. Watch them, in which does the QB hold the ball 6-seconds, then report back and quit using a sports reporters' take on the game. A stop watch is your friend---then again, you probably wouldn't trust it, either, as it merely displays the facts, not some warped fabrication of reality that seems to distort your mind. Have you ever played football at any level or do you wish to merely hide behind pedantic posts wherein a certain QB may throw for 175 yards against pitiful opposition?

I watched the game again. I watched the sack described by Kleinpeter at 8:08 in the Second Quarter. Jefferson had just a couple of seconds from snap to sack. Kleinpeter's description is dead on.

I watched the play at 8:03 in the Third Quarter, and the failure of that play too was not Jefferson's fault.

The ball was lined up on the left hash. There were two receivers split out to the left. Jefferson made a play action fake to his left and dropped back a few more yards. WVU rushed five: three down lineman and two OLBs. The right OLB was untouched and five yards into the backfield before Ridley finally tripped him up. Edwards whiffed on the left OLB, and he ran pretty much unabated toward Jefferson. Jefferson ran to his right to avoid the rush.

I don't think many coaches want their QB to attempt to throw left while running dead right, but in any event God could not have hit the two receivers split to the left and running routes on the other side of the field. The only remaining option was the tight end who had been lined up on the right and inside of Edwards, and he was double covered.

I suppose Jefferson's play action fake, drop back, and run from the left hash to the right sideline could have taken six seconds, but there was no way that he could have completed a pass on that play. He had no time to set up and deliver a pass before the unblocked left OLB was in his face.

The point of this thread was to discuss the o-line. This is your post:

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One sack JJ took vs WVU he held the ball 6-seconds before the pocket collapsed.

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Your post is pure unadulterated bullshite.

First, Jefferson did not have six seconds before the pocket collapsed. Hell, there was no pocket. The left OLB was unblocked.

Second, Jefferson had less than two seconds before the left OLB was in his face. Jefferson had no chance to complete a pass on that play because he had no time to throw to an open receiver.

Third, for the few seconds in which Jefferson was running for his proverbial life from the left hash to the right sideline, Jefferson had no chance to complete a pass. He had one possible receiver and he was double covered.

I repeat your post:

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One sack JJ took vs WVU he held the ball 6-seconds before the pocket collapsed.

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And I repeat that your post is pure unadulterated bullshite.

after his 3 step drop, 4-5 seconds would be real good time but he usually gets 1-2 and sometimes 3 after his dropback. not near enough time

I disagree. The line is greatly improved and playing like a unit. I haven't seen any major O-line issues.