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re: Offensive line still a big part of the problem
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:40 am to slackster
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:40 am to slackster
quote:What about the two false starts in the first quarter? Does he get a pass on those too?
As to Barksdale,I give him a pass on the "not on the line of scrimmage" call. I mean it was his fault, but I am sure that is one of those once in a lifetime penalties.
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Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:57 am to just me
quote:
What about the two false starts in the first quarter? Does he get a pass on those too?
Easy there killer. Don't get your panties in a wad. I mentioned one penalty. I never said that the other two were not boneheaded plays. In fact, even the penalty for being in the backfield was boneheaded, but I would not say that is going to be a repeating problem. Would you?
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:03 pm to slackster
This thread is about why the offense has not been as effective as it should be. The offensive line is still a big part of the problem. Penalties kill drives just as fast as incomplete passes.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:04 pm to just me
quote:
I checked. I didn't see a sack in the second half.
Want to try again?
Really? I hope you research your law work better than that. See play by play, 7:03 of 3rdQ, Jefferson sacked. Do I need to do anything else for you?
This was after watching 4 other college games and LSU kick off at 9:15PM, plus ~ 6-beers. Next time I will be more specific as to the exact second, my recollection was just a tad fuzzy.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:15 pm to tirebiter
quote:
Really?
quote:FoxSports
LSU ball, 7:03
1st-10-LSU22 Rush Jefferson rush right for -1 yards to the LSU21.
2nd-11-LSU22 Rush Ridley rush middle for 16 yards to the LSU38.
1st-10-LSU38 Rush Ridley rush left for 0 yards to the LSU38.
2nd-10-LSU38 Penalty West Virginia penalized 15 yards.
1st-10-WVU47 Incomplete Pass Jefferson incomplete pass to the middle.
2nd-10-WVU48 Rush Jefferson rush right for 3 yards to the WVU45.
3rd-7-WVU45 Pass Jefferson pass completion to the middle to Randle for 9 yards to the WVU36.
1st-10-WVU36 Rush Jefferson rush right for 3 yards to the WVU33.
2nd-7-WVU33 Rush Ridley rush middle for 12 yards to the WVU21.
1st-10-WVU21 Rush Shepard rush left for 9 yards to the WVU12.
2nd-1-WVU12 Rush Jefferson rush right for 2 yards to the WVU10.
1st-10-WVU10 Rush Ridley rush middle for 1 yard to the WVU9.
2nd-9-WVU9 Incomplete Pass Jefferson incomplete pass to the left.
3rd-9-WVU9 Pass Jefferson pass completion to the right to Randle for 4 yards to the WVU5.
quote:ESPN
LSU at 7:03 WVU LSU
1st and 10 at LSU 23 Jordan Jefferson rush for a loss of 1 yard to the LSU 22. 14 17
2nd and 11 at LSU 22 Stevan Ridley rush for 16 yards to the LSU 38 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at LSU 38 Stevan Ridley rush for a loss of 1 yard to the LSU 37.
2nd and 11 at LSU 37 LSU penalty -67 yard Pass Interference accepted, no play.
2nd and 10 at WVU 48 Jordan Jefferson rush for 3 yards to the WVirg 45.
3rd and 7 at WVU 45 Jordan Jefferson pass complete to Rueben Randle for 9 yards to the WVirg 36 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at WVU 36 Jordan Jefferson rush for 3 yards to the WVirg 33.
2nd and 7 at WVU 33 Stevan Ridley rush for 12 yards to the WVirg 21 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at WVU 21 Stevan Ridley rush for 9 yards to the WVirg 12.
2nd and 1 at WVU 12 Jordan Jefferson rush for 2 yards to the WVirg 10 for a 1ST down.
1st and Goal at WVU 10 Stevan Ridley rush for 1 yard to the WVirg 9.
2nd and Goal at WVU 9 Jordan Jefferson pass incomplete to Deangelo Peterson.
3rd and Goal at WVU 9 Jordan Jefferson pass complete to Rueben Randle for 4 yards to the WVirg 5.
End of 3rd Quarter
quote:Rivals.com
LSU - 7:03
1st-10, LSU22 7:03 J. Jefferson rushed to the right for 1 yard loss
2nd-11, LSU22 6:27 S. Ridley rushed up the middle for 16 yard gain
1st-10, LSU38 6:09 S. Ridley rushed to the left for no gain
2nd-10, LSU38 5:56 West Virginia committed 15 yard penalty
1st-10, WVU47 5:17 J. Jefferson incomplete pass down the middle
2nd-10, WVU48 5:08 J. Jefferson rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
3rd-7, WVU45 4:28 J. Jefferson passed to R. Randle down the middle for 9 yard gain
1st-10, WVU36 3:52 J. Jefferson rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
2nd-7, WVU33 3:09 S. Ridley rushed up the middle for 12 yard gain
1st-10, WVU21 2:39 R. Shepard rushed to the left for 9 yard gain
2nd-1, WVU12 2:15 J. Jefferson rushed to the right for 2 yard gain
1st-10, WVU10 1:53 S. Ridley rushed up the middle for 1 yard gain
2nd-9, WVU9 0:39 J. Jefferson incomplete pass to the left
3rd-9, WVU9 0:33 J. Jefferson passed to R. Randle to the right for 4 yard gain
Yeah, I still don't see a sack. I see a rush for -1 yards, but no sack.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:17 pm to just me
quote:
I checked. I didn't see a sack in the second half
L 1-10 L23 Jo. Jefferson sacked for loss of 1 yard to the LS22 (GOODE, Najee). LSU Sports
Although I believe it was a rushing attempt but was stopped for a loss any way
This post was edited on 9/29/10 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:23 pm to Wisdom
quote:
With all the Ranting about the struggles at quarterback, it seems to me that there is still a big gap between the protection the QB is getting and what he should be getting. I know he doesn't pull the trigger fast enough at times, and seems to be more than a little indecisive, but he never seems to be able to throw without being under significant pressure. Yes, the offensive line is improved over last year, but that isn't a very high standard. Perhaps Miles' reluctance to shift quarterbacks is attributable in part to his, and his staff's, belief that the problem lies less with the QB than with the blocking.
I think the WV game was the first time we've had consistent problems protecting. We have been better.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:27 pm to just me
Go to the real source:
LSU sports net
LSU @ 23, 1st and 10, Jefferson sacked for -1 by Goode, Najee. Plain as day. Did you watch the game? I don't make shite up.
LSU sports net
LSU @ 23, 1st and 10, Jefferson sacked for -1 by Goode, Najee. Plain as day. Did you watch the game? I don't make shite up.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:38 pm to Wisdom
B.s the o-line is much improved.If they werent do you honestly think we wouls be ranked as high as we are in rushing yards? Not taking anything away from ridley, but with the same line we had last two seasons, nvm dont want to think about it 
Posted on 9/29/10 at 1:04 pm to AliveAtTheHiveTiger
quote:
You can't tell me that it's the line's fault this guy hasn't thrown for over 100 FREAKIN yards in the last three games. There are teams out there with much worse lines who have quarterbacks who are throwing over 200 a game.
For effin True!
Posted on 9/29/10 at 1:24 pm to tirebiter
quote:
tirebiter
quote:
I checked. I didn't see a sack in the second half.
Want to try again?
Really? I hope you research your law work better than that. See play by play, 7:03 of 3rdQ, Jefferson sacked. Do I need to do anything else for you?
This was after watching 4 other college games and LSU kick off at 9:15PM, plus ~ 6-beers. Next time I will be more specific as to the exact second, my recollection was just a tad fuzzy.
sacks are recorded as -rushing yards...
cant believe you question tirebiter...he might be the top poster on here....
Posted on 9/29/10 at 1:32 pm to tirebiter
quote:
LSU @ 23, 1st and 10, Jefferson sacked for -1 by Goode, Najee. Plain as day. Did you watch the game? I don't make shite up.
This was the play where JJ stared down at TT who was wide the frick open for an easy 80 yard TD. No safety over the top nothing the guy was flat out open by 10 yards. JJ stared at him long enough for the South EZ to see to all be yelling throw it to Tolliver.. Then he took a sack
Posted on 9/29/10 at 1:34 pm to TigerFan55555
quote:
cant believe you question tirebiter...he might be the top poster on here....
Yeah, its a shame I'm kind of an asshat.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 1:42 pm to TigerFan55555
quote:No. Wrong. Sacks, believe it or not, are recorded as . . . sacks.
sacks are recorded as -rushing yards...
quote:FoxSports
LSU ball, 8:08
1st-10-LSU15 Rush Jefferson rush right for 6 yards to the LSU21.
2nd-4-LSU20 Sack Jefferson sacked by Neild for a 8 yard loss to the LSU12.
quote:ESPN
LSU at 8:08 WVU LSU
1st and 10 at LSU 14 Jordan Jefferson rush for 6 yards to the LSU 20. 0 17
2nd and 4 at LSU 20 Jordan Jefferson sacked by Chris Neild for a loss of 8 yards to the LSU 12.
quote:Rivals.com
LSU - 8:08
1st-10, LSU15 8:08 J. Jefferson rushed to the right for 6 yard gain
2nd-4, LSU20 7:53 J. Jefferson sacked by C. Neild
Posted on 9/29/10 at 1:49 pm to just me
What is your point? The guy said the wrong quarter.. The fact is that jefferson had more than enough time to throw the ball. Instead he just stared at a wide open receiver. That play was not the offensive lines fault.. Im not sure why JJ didnt throw the ball. Made no sense. He had a wide open WR and he was actually looking right at him the whole time. Not sure if it was nerves or what but we went from an easy TD to a sack in one play. Since I doubt anyone would have caught TT with the lead he had on the CB and the fact that the safety came up.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 1:55 pm to Wisdom
we are only decent at run blocking because we run the option. that sets up our running game. 
sorry, couldn't resist. hell, for all i know, it's true.
sorry, couldn't resist. hell, for all i know, it's true.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 2:02 pm to LSU GrandDad
I just want to know how anyone things we are not providing adequate pass blocking for JJ.
Take away that sack that was entirely JJ's fault and LSU is tied for 24th in the nation in sacks given up. They have only given up 5. I would have to look at the other 5 to figure out if it was the line that gave up the sack or JJ's inability to throw but the sack in the WVU game was entirely JJ's fault.
Take away that sack that was entirely JJ's fault and LSU is tied for 24th in the nation in sacks given up. They have only given up 5. I would have to look at the other 5 to figure out if it was the line that gave up the sack or JJ's inability to throw but the sack in the WVU game was entirely JJ's fault.
Posted on 9/29/10 at 2:03 pm to Catman88
quote:Did he?
What is your point? The guy said the wrong quarter.
Was he talking about the sack that I just listed?
Posted on 9/29/10 at 2:05 pm to just me
Pretty sure there was only one sack..
He said :
Im not sure if it was exactly 6 seconds on the play he was sacked but it certainly seemed that way. I had the same view that JJ did and for the life of me I have no idea why he didnt throw the ball. Everyone around me had enough time to get a few Throw it to Tolliver yells out because we could all see how open he was. His vision wasnt blocked but he just locked up. Then he got sacked.
Basically it was the type of sack commentators normally refer to as a "coverage" sack due to the amount of time the QB had. However JJ had a wide open guy and it was apparently his #1 option since he never looked away from him. he just didnt throw the ball.
He said :
quote:
One sack JJ took vs WVU he held the ball 6-seconds before the pocket collapsed.
Im not sure if it was exactly 6 seconds on the play he was sacked but it certainly seemed that way. I had the same view that JJ did and for the life of me I have no idea why he didnt throw the ball. Everyone around me had enough time to get a few Throw it to Tolliver yells out because we could all see how open he was. His vision wasnt blocked but he just locked up. Then he got sacked.
Basically it was the type of sack commentators normally refer to as a "coverage" sack due to the amount of time the QB had. However JJ had a wide open guy and it was apparently his #1 option since he never looked away from him. he just didnt throw the ball.
This post was edited on 9/29/10 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 9/29/10 at 2:13 pm to Catman88
quote:At least one guy saw the play differently:
Im not sure if it was exactly 6 seconds on the play he was sacked but it certainly seemed that way. I had the same view that JJ did and for the life of me I have no idea why he didnt throw the ball. Everyone around me had enough time to get a few Throw it to Tolliver yells out because we could all see how open he was. His vision wasnt blocked but he just locked up. Then he got sacked.
quote:LINK
The sack he took wasn't his fault. He was trying to go deep to Toliver and made a play action fake, but safety Robert Sands had already dropped into a deep zone on that side. After Jefferson turned his head he saw Toliver doubled. Meanwhile, center P.J. Lonergan was blocking 301-pound noseguard Chris Nelid but lost contact with him and Nelid circled behind Josh Williford and Alex Hurst, who were blocking end Jorge Wright, for the sack.
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