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re: O deserves a lot more credit than most here give him.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:21 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:21 pm to Goldrush25
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If someone has a horrible record and gets hired for a job, then it can be argued that that is a bad hire.
if a coach turns out to be very successful (as in Dabo) then it wasn't a bad hire, it was a great hire. Make sense? It certainly does to me.
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:22 pm to Laman1978
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O deserves a lot more credit than most here give him
He's won nothing of note. He hasnt beaten Alabama. He hasnt won the West. He hasn't won the SEC. He hasn't achieved playoff berth. He has never won an NC. He has never finished first in the SEC in recruiting.
In sum, he has won jack shite. When you actually wins something of note, he'll deserve some credit. Until then, no.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:22 pm to Topwater Trout
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well that is just crazy to fire a coach on his most recent games
Right? Just nine "arbitrary games"
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:24 pm to boxcar willie
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if a coach turns out to be very successful (as in Dabo) then it wasn't a bad hire
Yeah it's not difficult
But rantards will find a way to piss on anything
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Are we doing the pretending people didn't think Miles should have been fired thing again?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The last nine
how is that complicated for these guys. WTF?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:25 pm to DmitriKaramazov
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He's won nothing of note. He hasnt beaten Alabama. He hasnt won the West. He hasn't won the SEC. He hasn't achieved playoff berth. He has never won an NC. He has never finished first in the SEC in recruiting.
In sum, he has won jack shite. When you actually wins something of note, he'll deserve some credit. Until then, no.
It's sad how obsessed O pumpers are with screeching about "respect" that is allegedly due to him. It's the insecurity they share.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:25 pm to Laman1978
The man is 0fer agin’ the gumps. ‘Nuff said.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:26 pm to Topwater Trout
But he just said 10 win ceilings are acceptable at lsu.losing 6 games in a row doesnt matter of they result in 10 win seasons.its just flawed logic by someone that blames a s&c for offensive production
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:27 pm to boxcar willie
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The last nine
how is that complicated for these guys. WTF?
Retardation.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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RogerTheShrubber
I m no longer in these threads but I see the same ole people trotting out the same worn out arguments. Keep up the good fight Roger.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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But he just said 10 win ceilings are acceptable at lsu.losing 6 games in a row doesnt matter of they result in 10 win seasons.its just flawed logic by someone that blames a s&c for offensive production
It is simply just something that Orgeron hasn't done, and Miles has, so they pull those numbers and act like that's the reason why Orgeron deserves some kind of respect. Insecurities at it's finest.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:28 pm to boxcar willie
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how is that complicated for these guys. WTF?
Because its a subjective time period that couldve resulted in back to back 10 win seasons. Something rodger said is acceptable every year.
You and him are using a subjective 9 game stretch so you can be perfectly fine with losing 4 and 3 games under O.
Kindve like how you used our sec record to tout a 4 loss season and then dismissed the worse sec record this year. Just being subjective and not admitting it.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:29 pm to Laman1978
I wasn't responding to you on that part. Used my reply to your post to comment on the other guy who said "what do you want O to do, turn done the job?" Sorry for confusion.
It was probably pirate king who said it. Sounds like his schtick.
It was probably pirate king who said it. Sounds like his schtick.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:30 pm to boxcar willie
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if a coach turns out to be very successful (as in Dabo) then it wasn't a bad hire, it was a great hire. Make sense? It certainly does to me.
Certainly. But he has to actually do it, in real life.
I'm not going to give him credit for doing it before he does it.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:30 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Because its a subjective time period
It's the time from tDecline in 2015 to his firing. You are so frickin dense
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Retardation
Says the guy that thinks a 9 game stretch over 2 seasons isnt subjective.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's the time from tDecline in 2015 to his firing. You are so frickin dense
Miles should have been fired before he was. Someone saying Orgeron hasn't accomplished anything more than Miles, is not the same thing as saying Miles should still be coaching at LSU. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So saying either Dabo or Orgeron were bad hires is/was premature
When Dabo was hired at Clemson he had no past head coaching history = neutral hire.
When the coach here was hired, he had an abysmal coaching history.
How are the two in any way similar?
When the coach here began his head coaching career, he received the same benefit of the doubt that Dabo did. The difference is Dabo made the most of his situation.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 1:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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the time from tDecline in 2015 to his firing. You are so frickin dense
And youre so fricking stupid that you still cant grasp that you picked 9 games. Making its subjective.its an arbitray time period picked by you so you can claim 10 win ceilings as fine under O while also wanting Miles fired.
Youre choosing a subjective time period that couldve resulted in back to back 10 win seaosns. Something YOU said was acceptable. fricking hypocrite.
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