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re: Now 5 starters are out for LSU

Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by XbengalTiger
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:45 pm to
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Did either one even see the field Sat
Yes, when we started subbing the bench in the second half but they were not used as the #4 WR. They subbed in for Toliver and Shep once we started playing everyone early in the 4th quarter.
Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2746 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:47 pm to
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you have no freakin idea what you're talking about

Hahahaah. You want to put money on it pal. He can't take two redshirts whether its a med RS or not.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7194 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:48 pm to
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You have no freakin idea what you're talking about.

Actually, he's exactly right. If he already hadn't redshirted, then there's a chance the NCAA would just give him the year back immediately. That's what happened with Loston last year, he played 2-3 snaps against Washington, re-injured the hand and had the season voided basically. Since Blackwell has already RS, he'll have to finish his senior year first, then apply for the hardship.
This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:49 pm to
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This. Tolliver would have made more of an impact



based on all of his accomplishments thus far in the purple and gold... I mean him and I have the same amount of receptions
This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 1:50 pm
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:50 pm to
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Hahahaah. You want to put money on it pal. He can't take two redshirts whether its a med RS or not.


many people get rewarded with a sixth year at the end of their eligibility...
Posted by XbengalTiger
New Bama Standard 9-4
Member since Oct 2003
5514 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:53 pm to
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Then you're blind. Boone and Wright played Saturday in several sets.
I know they played but they didn't play in Tollivers #4 WR role. They subbed in for Toliver and Shep in the second half when we were playing lots of freshman on offense and defense. The point is...in the first half we used a flexed out TE in our 4 WR sets. We didn't use a WR in the 4-wide sets so I find it hard to believe the freshman were about to pass up Tolliver for that spot.
Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2746 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:54 pm to
Yea that's what I said in my first post. But he can't get a med RS for this year. And unless there was some sort of injury his redshirt year he probably won't get extended eligibility
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9295 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:54 pm to
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many people get rewarded with a sixth year at the end of their eligibility...


Most of those players were those that missed two years due to injury.
Posted by Elleshoe
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143780 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:55 pm to
I was under the impression that if he took a RS and then got hurt and had to miss so much of another year he'd be eligible for it...
Posted by DunbartonTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
558 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:57 pm to
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Wright/Boone was pushing CT hard for that spot.


yes because they played so much in this past game..lol
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:57 pm to
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Since Blackwell has already RS, he'll have to finish his senior year first, then apply for the hardship.

This is what Charles Alexander did a few years back. He was on the squad for 6 years as I recall.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10392 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:58 pm to
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He can't take two redshirts whether its a med RS or not.

Of course he can. The medical/hardship rule is the exception.

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The exception to the five-to-play-four rule comes when a player experiences a hardship, such as a season-ending injury. If an injury occurs in the first half of a season and the player has not played in more than 20% of his team's games, then the NCAA will consider granting a "medical redshirt" - a hardship exception to the eligibility rules.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:58 pm to
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yes because they played so much in this past game..lol


completely irrelevant especially with the history of this staff. maybe tolliver wouldn't have played much either...
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4079 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:59 pm to
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I was under the impression that if he took a RS and then got hurt and had to miss so much of another year he'd be eligible for it...

You have 5 yrs to play 4. To get a 6th year you have to miss 2 years due to factors beyond your control. Taking a normal redshirt yr is considered withing your control whether you would have actually played or not. The medical redshirt is really for people who don't redshirt but get injured early. It gives them the opportunity to play 4 within 5.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:00 pm to
either way, it sucks to have these guys out who should be contributing. hopefully they are back soon
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4079 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:09 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 2:10 pm
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:10 pm to
Plus Tolliver is the fastest receiver on the team. I guarantee he would have balls thrown his way
Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2746 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:16 pm to
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jay quest

Did you even read my first post. I said he will have to wait to get his eligibility extended. He cannot get a 'medical redshirt' bc he already has a RS. He has to wait til the ebd of his eligibility. And even then he prob won't get it extended
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10392 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:23 pm to
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Did you even read my first post

Perhaps I misunderstood your intent. I read it as if you were saying he could not receive a medical redshirt and an additional year of elgibility because he had red shirted previously. I read the rules to say the medical/hardship rule is the exception to the five to play four elgibility rule.

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And even then he prob won't get it extended

It seems if the NCAA is inclined to extend elgibility for medical reasons, this is a good case for it.


Posted by Bonjourno
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2746 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 2:28 pm to
Generally they tend to extend eligibility for guys who missed 2 yrs for things outside their control ie pittman and graff. Since he redshirted voluntarily the first time he's not the ideal candidate
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