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re: Not happy with offensive gameplan...
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:23 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:23 am to Topwater Trout
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I find you incredibly stupid if you don't understand throwing 10 passes does nothing to improve a passing game that most knowledgeable fans agree needs improvement.
We threw 21 passes, dude. Our starter had a bad wheel, & we pulled him up out of an abundance of caution.
I feel like I'm eating crazy pills talking to some of you people here. You're calling me stupid, and you don't even know how many passes we fricking threw?
Dude, we are going to run LOTS of double tight-end formations & we're gonna end up flexing D-Lo Peterson out of them and send him into routes. So YES, we will need to work on our double-tight-end packages, dudester.
Again. Post Less. Read More. You're welcome.
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Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:27 am to GFunk
I just do not think this guy understands that this is how our offensive game plan will be all year. Run, run, and more run. Followed by short and long pass attempts. You flat out wont see many intermediate passes. Would you like me to tell you why? Well I am going to anyways. Intermediate passes, are by far, the hardiest passes for QB to protect from being intercepted. Our game plan is Defense,RUN, do not turn the ball over. If you do not like that I would find another team.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:31 am to GFunk
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We threw 21 passes,
I am talking about JL not the entire game.
You are content with the work our passing game has had in the first 2 games?
FTR I love being able to pound out yards on the ground but I think to do so in the SEC we have to have the threat of having a capable passing attack.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:34 am to LSUIEGRAD13
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I just do not think this guy understands that this is how our offensive game plan will be all year. Run, run, and more run. Followed by short and long pass attempts. You flat out wont see many intermediate passes. Would you like me to tell you why? Well I am going to anyways. Intermediate passes, are by far, the hardiest passes for QB to protect from being intercepted. Our game plan is Defense,RUN, do not turn the ball over. If you do not like that I would find another team.
Dude, we should be running fricking Air-Raid on their asses. 4-Vert concepts off the line, so no pattern reading in the Secondary to throw St. Nick on his heels. From there, we'll run one Spec Route each play, & the other three will just run for the End Zone. We'll score 50 per game & Lee will end up 1st Team All-SEC.
/end sarcasm
realtalk: Our offensive line is going to be the rock that we break the SEC West against this year. We need to hope it holds up. Because we're going to pass to keep them honest, & take a shot from time to time.
But our OL & our tailbacks are going to be buttering our bread.
Even still, we'll still get 20-25 attempts per game, and perhaps even 30 every now and again. We've shown more vertical shots through 2 games than we had about 9 games in last year.
/end realtalk
But we should've run shotgun Sugar-huddle the ENTIRE time against NSU. That stacked WR screen, or the double H-Back with a motion man? That's bullshite. That new formation is crap. Passing out of the I-formation. On 1st down? Shitty gameplan.
/end sarcasm
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 2:35 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:35 am to Topwater Trout
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I think to do so in the SEC we have to have the threat of having a capable passing attack
19-32, 231 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT isn't "capable?"
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:37 am to DanglingFury
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19-32, 231 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT isn't "capable?"
assuming that either QB will duplicate same success they had vs NW against SEC defenses seems a tad optimistic IMO
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:39 am to Topwater Trout
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I am talking about JL not the entire game.
He threw 10 passes, completed 9 of them, and had a bum wheel & yet gutted out two or three more possessions. Possessions where we completely shut him down. Again, are you even fricking watching? Did you not see Spencer Ware completely blow his blitz-picking assignment and give up that sack on the 3rd down where Lee came up gimpy? Did you not see him walking around like Tiny Tim, sans-cane the rest of the night?
Did you? Geezus, man, pay attention!
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You are content with the work our passing game has had in the first 2 games?
We beat the #3 team in America with a kid who had 10 days or so as the #1 QB, and had a #1 WR who was nursing a bum wheel & was not able to really impact the game outside of one or two plays. We also had our #2 WR suspended. We also had tons of drops.
Yet we threw deep middle at least 3 times with Lee in Jerryworld. We threw vertical with him several times, only to have the plays end with drops or crappy penalties.
To say that I'm unhappy with the work the passing game's gotten in the first two games, I'd have to be extremely ignorant. So no, I won't say that.
You can feel free, too, though. You don't seem to mind being extremely ignorant.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:46 am to jacks40
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assuming that either QB will duplicate same success they had vs NW against SEC defenses seems a tad optimistic IMO
Those are Lee's numbers thru the first two games, not the combined numbers from tonight. The guy asked for "capable," those seem capable to me. We don't need Andrew Luck running our offense, we just need a guy who keeps frickups to a minimum. Even in most of our SEC games, that should be enough.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:50 am to DanglingFury
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Those are Lee's numbers thru the first two games, not the combined numbers from tonight
fine...assuming Lee on average puts up #'s closer to tonight than oregon against SEC defenses is a tad optimistc IMO.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:53 am to jacks40
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assuming that either QB will duplicate same success they had vs NW against SEC defenses seems a tad optimistic IMO
You're wasting your time they don't get it. The offense is the shite. Passing game can't be stopped so there is no reason to work on it and possibly show some future SEC defenses new routes we invented over the summer like post and crossing routes.
GFUNK is stating I was clamoring that we go all air raid on their arse. That is what he concluded from my post regarding wishing we had worked more on the passing game.
I haven't talked to one person IRL that disagrees with anything I posted. They all wish we had worked more on our passing game.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:53 am to Topwater Trout
You might want to just give up now.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:54 am to jacks40
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fine...assuming Lee on average puts up #'s ...against SEC defenses is a tad optimistc IMO.
I'm apparently not going to defeat your pessimism. Quite a battle of wits going on here.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:57 am to Topwater Trout
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I haven't talked to one person IRL that disagrees with anything I posted. They all wish we had worked more on our passing game.
Birds of an extremely ignorant feather flock together.
Case in point: Seeing me type things like "/end sarcasm" in posts and then ignoring them while saying that's what I actually think you're advocating.
Consistency is typically a good quality to have in life. My mother always told me that if I had nothing nice to say about folks, then I shouldn't speak at all.
So I'll end my night by saying something nice to you:
It's really nice to know that you're consistently extremely ignorant, PicassBro...
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 3:01 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 2:59 am to DanglingFury
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I'm apparently not going to defeat your pessimism. Quite a battle of wits going on here.
if by battle of wits you mean blind homer based optismism vs realism than yes you are correct
Posted on 9/11/11 at 3:04 am to jacks40
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if by battle of wits you mean blind homer based optismism vs realism than yes you are correct
Because I'm saying we have a QB that has a chance to put up average numbers against SEC defenses, I'm a blind homer? And your negativity makes you a realist?
Ok.
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 3:09 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 3:08 am to GFunk
[quote]Seeing my type things like "/end sarcasm" in posts and then ignoring them while saying that's what I actually think you're advocating.
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I was trying to have a football discusion. My title may have been worded wrong and that got your panties in a bunch but the basic premise was we all f'n know we can run the ball. Running the ball down NWSt throat isn't going to help us beat SEC teams. Even though it is a crappy opponent working on QB and WR timing could actually benefit us down the road. I know it's a novel concept and so out of line to try to work on weaknesses so maybe we should just not even practice.
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I was trying to have a football discusion. My title may have been worded wrong and that got your panties in a bunch but the basic premise was we all f'n know we can run the ball. Running the ball down NWSt throat isn't going to help us beat SEC teams. Even though it is a crappy opponent working on QB and WR timing could actually benefit us down the road. I know it's a novel concept and so out of line to try to work on weaknesses so maybe we should just not even practice.
Posted on 9/11/11 at 3:09 am to DanglingFury
you are a homer cause u think Lee is more likely to average the same #s he averaged against a pac12 defense and d2 NW defense against teams in the SEC.
reality makes me a realist. a 3 year sample size of Lee tends to indicate that he will likely not put up the #'s you are suggesting he will based on a 2 game sample size.
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And your negativity makes you a realist?
reality makes me a realist. a 3 year sample size of Lee tends to indicate that he will likely not put up the #'s you are suggesting he will based on a 2 game sample size.
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 3:11 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 3:18 am to jacks40
Ok man. I'm sorry for thinking we have a guy that may be able to put up competent numbers this year. I'm just not realistic enough to have it all figured out like you.
I'm not fooling myself, we don't have Andrew Luck under center, but when Lee basically won the games for us against Florida and Tennessee, and sealed the win against Bama last year...those were SEC defenses.
I'm not fooling myself, we don't have Andrew Luck under center, but when Lee basically won the games for us against Florida and Tennessee, and sealed the win against Bama last year...those were SEC defenses.
This post was edited on 9/11/11 at 3:28 am
Posted on 9/11/11 at 4:58 am to jonboy
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It's called practice.
tell me more of this thing you call practice
Posted on 9/11/11 at 10:47 am to Topwater Trout
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we invented over the summer like post and crossing routes.
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