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re: No Hate towards Simmons, he's just a talented kid.....This is all on JJ.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:58 am to ellessuuuu
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:58 am to ellessuuuu
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Mental mistakes, lack of effort, etc. Jones continues to let players play lazy, take poor shots, commit careless unforced turnovers. When there are no consequences to this type of play, it does not get corrected.
who would you play instead of BS to make a point?
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Wow, have you ever played basketball?
yes and when you get tired your play suffers.
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Cal and K both will pull kids out of the game
because they have options...well duke not so much as they are only really playing about 7 players
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If you think Simmons is a great defender, then you don't understand how to guard a ball screen.
who on the bench can do better and give us a chance to win?
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Simmons (along with the rest of this team - except maybe Hornsby) does not put out a ton of effort on the defensive end of the floor
is a terrible defender but I guess effort is more important than defending? Based on your rationale Hornsby should never play.
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Your players have to know that making those mental mistakes and/or not playing with a certain level of effort will not be accepted.
The only reason TQ gets so many minutes is because we don't have depth
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We have the depth to pull players to send a message.
No one in their right mind would agree with this...we went 7-6 against a weak ooc schedule without Hornsby and Victor
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:01 pm to Topwater Trout
Here is the thing. If he was playing for a coach that knew how to use him and it what specific role, we wouldn't have to even ask the question because we would know and it would be obvious. But because he is playing for a coach who is in way over his head he is getting so little direction that it is almost impossible to know what the best role would be that maxes out his talent at this level. He is getting no on the court development and JJ doesn't even know how to put him in the best positions to get the best looks. I'm not even going to bring up Free Throws. As far as in the classroom, that part is on the athlete. Any athlete. Go to class, get the help if you need it because it is plenty available to Ben and every other athlete at LSU.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:02 pm to HypnoticPoison
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We should be competing for SEC titles
Are you serious with this?
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:03 pm to Bottom9
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So you're saying that Johnny should be going to class for Simmons? Or taking his tests?
You clearly have shite for brains if this is what you got out of his post.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:08 pm to tiger81
What could you actually accomplish disciplining Simmons? All he has to do is "go through the motions" and he still walks into millions of dollars next year? My son got halfway through his senior year in HS, saw all his credits met, and slept in class the rest of the school year. He knew what was ahead and his motivation "died." Could that be the same with Simmons? Why go to all the effort if you KNOW you will be a millionaire next year? JJ perhaps has no control over Simmons with the attitude Simmons has--coaches in the NBA can have the same problems with players (thinking of Nick Saban at Miami). With that type of attitude from Simmons, this season is somewhat of a loss and the other players don't deserve the results if someone so talented can't help lead and drive the team. My 2-cents worth.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:09 pm to texastigerr
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If he was playing for a coach that knew how to use him and it what specific role
but JJ can't really do this. At UK BS would play half the minutes he plays now b/c they can afford to play other players and still have a good shot at winning. Competition for PT is what LSU doesn't have...other schools with great coaches have that.
I really don't believe BS would have the great stats he has now if he went to play for UK, Duke, Kansas, UNC etc...not saying he wouldn't be a better player with the coaching he would receive at those schools.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:13 pm to CalTiger53
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So because you dont see what you thought you were going to see he is a disappointment?
Isn't that the definition of disappointment?
no assclown. That means YOU are disappointed. It doesn't mean that he is a disappointment
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:42 pm to LSUGrad9295
Boom!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:43 pm to pellietigersaint
He is a disappointment dipshit. He takes too many mins off just standing around. Jj needs to go. No doubt. But to put all the blame on him is stupid.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:45 pm to Topwater Trout
I can't disagree with anything you have said. I do believe that this team with the right coach has enough talent all the way around to be a good team and make a splash in the tournament.
This is a team with the kind of talent that should have been getting better and better as the season went on and it just has not. Same mistakes over and over, same poor in game decisions, same poor free throw shooting, inconsistent all the way around and simply looks lost too much of the time. Combined with poor effort it's a losing proposition.
This is a team with the kind of talent that should have been getting better and better as the season went on and it just has not. Same mistakes over and over, same poor in game decisions, same poor free throw shooting, inconsistent all the way around and simply looks lost too much of the time. Combined with poor effort it's a losing proposition.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:51 pm to Topwater Trout
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But I really want to know how he would be better under Calipari or Coach K for example?
Are you serious?!?
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:56 pm to texastigerr
[quote] I do believe that this team with the right coach has enough talent all the way around to be a good team and make a splash in the tournament. [/quote
I just don't see the talent you are talking about. The star players game does not seem suited for college ball,. Victor and Hornsby are the only other talents on the team. I would love to see the great 'coach K' with this team just to shut up all the JJ detractors.
I just don't see the talent you are talking about. The star players game does not seem suited for college ball,. Victor and Hornsby are the only other talents on the team. I would love to see the great 'coach K' with this team just to shut up all the JJ detractors.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:59 pm to tonydtiger
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Are you serious?!?
well explain how you think he would be better? Other than he would be on a team with a lot more depth so he could be benched and used more situationally, how else could he play better under them with this same LSU talent.
Do you think they could magically make him a better shooter or aggressive?
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:01 pm to boxcar willie
for one, I think the whole 'point forward' idea should be scrapped. Simmons and Victor should be planted firmly in the paint.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:12 pm to Topwater Trout
Holding players accountable for mental mistakes and lack of effort will in fact make that play better. I'm not sure why this is a difficult concept to grasp?
Allowing players to continue to play lazy without consequences, generally will lead to players continuing to play lazy.
You've got to hold players accountable, especially younger players.
Allowing players to continue to play lazy without consequences, generally will lead to players continuing to play lazy.
You've got to hold players accountable, especially younger players.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:42 pm to texastigerr
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I do believe that this team with the right coach has enough talent all the way around to be a good team and make a splash in the tournament
I agree. I don't think there is any excuse for this team not to make the tournament. We obviously have top 30 talent (being conservative) in our top 7-8 players.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:42 pm to ellessuuuu
Totally agree.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:43 pm to dukke v
STFU Peej
Posted on 2/22/16 at 1:48 pm to ellessuuuu
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Holding players accountable for mental mistakes and lack of effort will in fact make that play better.
I agree
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I'm not sure why this is a difficult concept to grasp?
It's not but I think you aren't grasping what I am saying. You can do that in practice as well as taking PT away. JJ is in a bind in that he doesn't have the depth to be able to do it in games and also giving his team the best chance to win. What if he had benched BS more and we lost a few more games do you think that takes the pressure off his job security? He is trying to win. Whether we think he is a good coach or not all coaches are trying their best to win games.
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You've got to hold players accountable, especially younger players.
BS is one and done. Now imagine the fan reaction if JJ benched him. You have to admit its a catch 22.
I love BS but I think I would rather get the players that will be here for 3-4 years so we can build the program.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 2:03 pm to Bottom9
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So you're saying that Johnny should be going to class for Simmons? Or taking his tests?
God what an ignorant, dumbfrick reply.
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