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re: Nicholls 6 @ LSU 5 Final - SECN+

Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:15 pm to
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:15 pm to
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He was 1/3 way down the baseline when the catch was made


THIS.

Merrifield's bad decision made Frey's bad decision irrelevant, but in reality, Frey not tagging was much worse.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36284 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:16 pm to
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Yeah, it was just a routine pop up.



It doesn’t matter if it’s not routine. It’s a fly ball, right near the runner who *should have been* watching the play. It’s a dumb play. Johnson will say it. Merrifield will say it. I don’t know why y’all have a hard time accepting that
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:16 pm to
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Didn’t realize this! Thank you for the reply!
Both JML and Cheer are awesome. Put that into you pocket.

Also learn what is Rabbit's favorite play... we've done it 7?!? times this season.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:17 pm to
So basically, we completely suck at base running.

We rarely move up on balls in the dirt.
We don’t steal bases.

And we don’t tag up on bloopers when the second baseman is running and diving with his back to the infield.

And our runners on second base completely pass up the runner on third when we are down 1 in the 9th inning.

Well isn’t that special.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:17 pm to
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And no situational awareness to not even notice he’s passing his own guy. It’s one of the worst baserunning mistakes that I can remember


To be fair, I’m about 90% sure he passed Frey basically giving up after he saw they caught it. I just cannot imagine he ran right past a man standing there without even seeing him.

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Zero reason to be aggressive there. If he was the tying run? Maybe cut him a little slack. His run matters less in that moment than the runner ahead of him. He’s seen that kid make 2-3 range plays this game.


It’s a good coaching moment for that reason. He should have stayed put, but he and everyone else in that stadium thought that ball was landing, so he thinks he’s scoring the winning run. It was an incredible play.
Posted by SECLSUFAN
Member since Nov 2015
56 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:18 pm to
Bro, it didn’t happen & Tigers lose 6-5. Colonels came to play obviously and got the W in Baton Rouge.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:19 pm to
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Frey was not in a position to tag. Right after the catch, he was jogging back to third. He was 1/3 way down the baseline when the catch was made


I’ve watched the relay but you can’t see Frey.

Best I can tell is he was standing on third and knew they were fricked when it was caught with Merrifield on his arse.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36284 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:20 pm to
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He’s getting double off there regardless of whether he passes Frey.



Possible, but much less likely, even after taking a secondary lead, than just barreling around 3rd
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:22 pm to
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But the runner screwed up by making it a double play.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
NOPE. If you think for one minute he was being held up, you’re fricking wrong. Go rewatch it. That isn’t a halfway play at all and it was far enough away that even the 3rd base coach was fricked up. Only the runner on third knew as he scrambled. Merrifield had his back to the play watching the coach.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69083 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:23 pm to
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I’ve watched the relay but you can’t see Frey. Best I can tell is he was standing on third and knew they were fricked when it was caught with Merrifield on his arse.

Yeah looking at it again, looks like Frey is standing there 3-4 steps down the line and sees Merrifield almost at third base when the ball was caught. It was over at that point, so he kind of just let Merrifield pass him as he wasn’t getting back to second base regardless. Merrifield takes off at contact without even looking over his shoulder to see if the catch is made. Just terrible read and situational awareness by him.
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 10:24 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90027 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:23 pm to
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Possible, but much less likely, even after taking a secondary lead, than just barreling around 3rd


Yeah I don’t think he gets doubled up there if he freezes, but I do think Crews is thrown out at 2nd if that ball falls. It was the definition of no man’s land for all involved.

Merrifield should have froze though.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90027 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:24 pm to
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Just terrible read and situational awareness by him.


The read was a good one - that’s just an incredible play. Like next level play.

The situational awareness wasn’t there though, and that should have overrode the read.
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 10:28 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69083 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:25 pm to
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but I do think Crews is thrown out at 2nd if that ball falls

Crews was 2/3 down the line when the catch was made and no one was close to the second base bag to force him out even if he wasn’t. He turned around and sprinted back to first base once the catch was made. Crews did everything right there
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63591 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:26 pm to
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Colonels came to play obviously and got the W in Baton Rouge


Never said they didn’t. Credit to them for playing great defense.


But LSU EARNED that loss. It took a special kind of stupid pitch selection to throw several fastballs in a row to their hottest hitter in a 1-0 game with 2 outs and runners at second and third. No way an 89 mph fastball is Riley Cooper’s best pitch and we just laid it over the plate for a 2 rbi single. Even Rantz is in the booth saying, “LSU should walk this batter”. Nope, we gave him mediocre fastball after fastball. Then when Nicholls brings in a seldom used pinch hitter in the 9th with 2 outs the bases loaded, we acted like this kid was Barry Bonds and had Collins feed him 6 straight curveballs. Never mind that Collins also features a 94 mph fastball. Nope, we are too scared to even mix a fastball in there. Just throw all curveballs.
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 10:27 pm
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10778 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:26 pm to
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So basically, we completely suck at base running.

We rarely move up on balls in the dirt.
We don’t steal bases.


I don't expect us to excel at those things, but obviously we could be better at it, and there needs to be some sort of middle ground between small ball and the monkey fricking a football 9th inning that happened tonight. Bottom line we have a bunch of tight end looking guys who can rake and we choose to play station to station baseball, and give up something defensively because of it. Of course if they do have a poor night at the plate, the defense and base running weaknesses are glaring as hell.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59614 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:28 pm to
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I'll never understand why Jay Johnson hates the bunt so much. No outs and runners on 1st and 2nd with a sub .220 hitter and down one...someone please make it make sense to me



The pitcher had given up 3 straight hard hit balls. Not a bad decision.

Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
4446 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:30 pm to
It was a bit much for Merrifield to process in that situation. He’s NOT a freshman inserted as a pinch runner to win the game on a hit. Odds of him going in that situation where the ball was hit were way higher than him sitting tight.
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 10:35 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90027 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:30 pm to
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Crews did everything right there


Yeah I agreed.

Also went back and watched it again- thought the pitcher covered a little quicker than he did. Crews is almost certainly safe there. Only play is really at third with Merrifield.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69083 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:31 pm to
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He’s a freshman inserted as a pinch runner to win the game on a hit.

He’s not a freshman

He’s a 5th year senior
This post was edited on 4/25/23 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36284 posts
Posted on 4/25/23 at 10:31 pm to
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Merrifield had his back to the play watching the coach.



Then it’s even worse. You’re never looking at your coach on a ball in the air


Ever
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