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re: New stuff from Will Wade wiretap

Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:41 pm to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:41 pm to
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Page 14 and Irish still hasn’t produced a shred of evidence Wade even bought a cheeseburger for a player

neither has Lester Earl, Chyiong (or whatever Johnny Jones’ alternate is) and nobody else has. NOTHING.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18250 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

beau, it’s not my problem that you can’t read.

And that you have the IQ of a peanut


Says the peanut.
Posted by Tigercowboy
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
4511 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:51 pm to
Just like Jones you no idea the what it takes and the time it takes to build a program.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59847 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:52 pm to
In Lester’s case he’d just rather be right than Wade be innocent, he doesn’t dislike Wade. That’s just Lester being Lester. With China he hates Wade he’s hated Wade from the start and would’ve hated anyone who replaced Johnny Jones. This guy thinks Jones was the best coach we ever had and was even giving Jones all the credit for Nevada’s success when Musselman was turning that program around even though Jones was just an arbitrary assistant and Nevada was having success before he was hired. The guy is an idiot and has no idea what he’s talking about.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 7:04 pm
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18250 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:12 pm to
Man you just love looking stupid. If an open heart surgeon has kno idea what he is doing. How many surgeries do you think he will perform before people figure out that he has no idea what he is doing? You think hospitals just employ surgeons that cant successfully complete a surgery? You do realize you dont just take a test and become a surgeon, right? They have residencies for a reason.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:18 pm to
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If everyone else is, absolutely.

OK....Now we know. I hope when you fill out a job application, you tell the truth on those questions about "stealing from the company" being OK.
BTW....remind me never to hire you.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98873 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:19 pm to
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How would you like to have heart surgery performed by a doctor who "cheated" on his board exams? Come on now....be honest!

Jesus. How did I miss this gem?

If a heart surgeon had a history of successful heart surgeries, who gives a flying frick about what they did years and years ago in med school? Also, in this analogy the entire medical field would be corrupt anyways. So, why wouldn't someone want to go with the proven surgeon? Would you want the surgeon fresh out of school that didn't cheat or the proven hear surgeon that did?

This is the dumbest thing you've posted yet about Will Wade.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98873 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:19 pm to
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I hope when you fill out a job application, you tell the truth on those questions about "stealing from the company" being OK.

Your dumb analogies continue.

Eta: A better analogy would be what if the referees aren't calling holding in a football game? Would you continue to tell your players to follow the blocking rules or to hold like the other team is to level the playing field?
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 7:25 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59847 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:34 pm to
Irish must be half in the bag before he comes here to post. Only someone who’s wasted can type those things and it make sense to them.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98873 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:40 pm to
I understand the overall point of view and it would be nice in a perfect world. But, when the people that are in place to enforce the rules aren't enforcing them or simply don't care, is it really unethical to break those rules if you're not getting caught?

Disclaimer: Before Irish reads this, I'm discussing in a sports setting and not a real world application.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 7:46 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59847 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:46 pm to
The problem is he can’t prove the core accusations he’s made. So his starting point for all his posturing and virtue signaling doesn’t exist. He claims people who support Wade support cheating when Wade hasn’t even been charged with any wrongdoing. Even if there was a case against Wade and he beat it this guy can’t even tell us how the process went down or connect any dots. He can’t tell us where the money came from or went to or who it went through. Wade’s dirty isn’t an argument, you can’t make these kinds of allegations when you don’t know a single thing about it. And if he’s mad at the system why is he just mad now? Why hasn’t he been talking about this? Martin and Quaterman have rumors attached to their names where was he when they were here? He’s full of shite period.

My bad on all the edits, I’m on a phone and I smash they keyboard.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 7:51 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98873 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:54 pm to
If we are talking proof, then no there is no proof that Wade cheated. Once this HBO thing comes out, if it really is his voice on there, then common sense will say that he wouldn't be saying those things if he hadn't been cheating before. But, again, the NCAA just doesn't seem to care unless an outside source finds out and exposes it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59847 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:57 pm to
This guy swallowed a lawyers smear tactic hook line and sinker. What Dawkins was in trial for and what the smears suggested are two different things. Dawkins was on trial for wire fraud and bribery. He took money from Adidas and an agency and gave it to players to get them to sign with the agency, not to get players to go to certain colleges. The wire tap comments were released by Dawkins lawyers to smear the coaches who were cooperating with the FBI after the subpoenas came out. It only worked on anybody who’s just desperate for gossip and didn’t educate themselves on what was going on.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 7:58 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59847 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 8:01 pm to
Yea the theory is that once people actually hear these comments it’ll give them more weight. It shouldn’t and a lot of the comments are still taken out of context. But still it’s the same tactic and information just through a different medium. For example the “3rd party” comments made to look like Smart didn’t like LSUs initial offer when the two guys were actually discussing Smarts camp being unhappy with Kentucky’s offer. That’s an important distinction but it won’t be clarified and people like Irish will assume guilt because of misinformation.

And regardless of what it sounds like if we can’t put together a chain of possession and distribution off of this audio commentary we still don’t know anything because of the context and motive of the person putting this out there. On top of all the bullshite, cause that’s what this is and HBO is, the NCAA looked into this, they’ve heard the un-redacted version and not one violation was levied against Wade or LSU. Wade even went as far as to give up protection in his contract in good faith he was so confident he’s done nothing wrong.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 8:07 pm
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10614 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 8:13 pm to
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OK....Now we know. I hope when you fill out a job application, you tell the truth on those questions about "stealing from the company" being OK.

If high level employees are already stealing from the company and the bosses are looking the other way, why exactly am I being vilified?

quote:

BTW....remind me never to hire you

Make it known what your TD username is during the interview and I’ll gladly remove myself from consideration.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:48 pm to
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A better analogy would be what if the referees aren't calling holding in a football game? Would you continue to tell your players to follow the blocking rules or to hold like the other team is to level the playing field?

You assume the refs are intentionally ignoring "holding." There are varying degrees of holding so the point where a ref decides to throw the flag varies from one ref to another. You are attempting to create some nefarious situation with the refs. I'm not sure that it is real (at least not as an accepted/widely used part of being a ref).
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59847 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:45 pm to
Lol so assumptions are ok as long as you’re the one making em but not for others. Like I said hypocrisy and lack of self awareness.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 11:46 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98873 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 9:07 am to
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You assume the refs are intentionally ignoring "holding."
quote:

You are attempting to create some nefarious situation with the refs. I'm not sure that it is real

This thread is filled with you using hypothetical analogies.

Sounds like you just don't want to answer the question because it will hurt your position on the matter.
Posted by spinelli
Member since Mar 2020
15 posts
Posted on 3/25/20 at 11:26 am to
If the NCAA decides to sanction LSU or Wade, the school should demand answers as to why the NCAA refused to act on allegations against other programs such as Kentucky and Calipari.

Early Friday morning, the Web site published another story by O'Brien that stated "sources from three separate universities told the Sun-Times that Davis Sr. asked for money in return for his son's commitment, with the amount ranging from $125,000 to $150,000."

Attorney Stephen L. Barker told the Tribune that while the school was glad the original story was off of the paper's site, "taking the story down doesn't cure all the problems. I believe this was beyond irresponsible journalism."

O'Brien's original story centered on Perspectives-Calumet player Davis' college choice, cited a "reliable source" and said "rumors/sources that have Davis choosing Kentucky are also alleging that the commitment cost $200,000."

Any such payment would be a violation of NCAA rules and, if true, would put Kentucky and Davis' college basketball future into question.

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