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re: Never ending thread arguing about Coach O
Posted on 5/11/19 at 11:29 am to StatMaster
Posted on 5/11/19 at 11:29 am to StatMaster
Who knows...Quinnen Williams wasn't even a starter for Bama 8 months ago
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Posted on 5/11/19 at 12:16 pm to Damone
I don’t agree with your coach bashing, but I do agree that we cannot miss on D-line recruiting again in 2020 and expect to survive in the SEC. Hell, sorry arse Moo State has out-recruited us in the trenches for 3 years straight. There’s no excuse for this!
Posted on 5/11/19 at 12:20 pm to StatMaster
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I don’t see there being enough improvement in one year to make us a serious contender esp against the Alabama’s of the world.
Why single out the D-line? Sure, they don’t stack up to Alabama’s, but our DBs will run circles around theirs and everyone else we play. It’s not like the lines get on the field with no other units.
Get out of here with that. If the team can’t compete, it’s on the coaches, but I think they can and will.
Good coaches play to their team’s strengths and scheme around their weaknesses. And yes, Alabama has weaknesses as you witnessed in the NCG.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 5/11/19 at 12:23 pm to 00 Tech Grad
If the defense can't compete, it's on aranda or O?
Posted on 5/11/19 at 12:25 pm to Mark17
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defense can't compete, it's on aranda or O?
Depends on why they couldn’t. If it’s because of poor defensive scheme, it’s on Aranda. If it’s because the offense can’t keep them off the field and they get worn down, it’s on O and Ensminger.
I don’t see why this is such a hard concept to grasp.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 5/11/19 at 12:33 pm to 00 Tech Grad
quote:What about if it has nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with the fact that Bama has much better players?
Depends on why they couldn’t. If it’s because of poor defensive scheme, it’s on Aranda. If it’s because the offense can’t keep them off the field and they get worn down, it’s on O and Ensminger.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 12:35 pm to StatMaster
Maybe Chaisson? Maybe Kardell in a few years?
Posted on 5/11/19 at 12:37 pm to StatMaster
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What about if it has nothing to do with coaching and everything to do with the fact that Bama has much better players?
I don’t buy it, and I don’t understand why you’re suddenly bashing O’s recruiting/player development over the last 3 years, and in the very unit he specializes. All of a sudden we “can’t compete” after addressing all the units that he needed to except a couple guys on D line? I don’t think anyone expects to blow their doors off, but not competing this year isn’t acceptable.
Bama had better players than Clemson last year. How’d that work out?
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 5/11/19 at 1:01 pm to 00 Tech Grad
quote:Really? You sure about that? Did you watch the NFL draft? Have you been paying attention to recruiting lately? Did you see their future first overall pick at QB?
Bama had better players than Clemson last year. How’d that work out?
LSU’s talent is definitely upgraded under O, but Bama and Clemson are on a different level right now. Although, Clemson’s defense will be down this year after losing a bunch to the draft
Posted on 5/11/19 at 1:11 pm to StatMaster
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talent is definitely upgraded under O, but Bama and Clemson are on a different level right now. Although, Clemson’s defense will be down this year after losing a bunch to the draft
Oh, you’re one of those “cupboard was bare and O needs 5+ years to compete” guys. If I’d realized that, I wouldn’t have wasted my time.
I guess you’ve completely forgotten the only reason O was hired was because of continuity and it wasn’t a rebuild. A rebuild is what Herman took over at UT.
Again, nobody is expecting to blow Bama out or even necessarily beat them, but another goose egg or blowout loss this year is absolutely unacceptable. You can make all the excuses you want, but I can list you quite a few examples of HCs who had their teams in the CFP in their first 3 years.
Even with a loss to Alabama, if LSU beats everyone else they will be in the CFP.
We will see what O’s ceiling is in 2019.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 5/11/19 at 1:14 pm to StatMaster
They have talent on both sides of the ball but very thin at each position.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 1:21 pm to 00 Tech Grad
quote:I think LSU did a bad job of recruiting linemen, both offensive and defensive linemen in the past 5-7 years. There hasn’t been a true difference maker at these positions in quite some time. We can have all the 5 star RBs and WRs in the world, but without elite lines, we won’t consistently compete for NCs.
Oh, you’re one of those “cupboard was bare and O needs 5+ years to compete” guys. If I’d realized that, I wouldn’t have wasted my time.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 1:22 pm to 00 Tech Grad
I don't know a single person saying give him five years. I do think he had to rebuild a lot more than some of you are willing to admit, simply because you don't like him. You guys act like you can snap your fingers and they compete for a championship. He has put the pieces in place for that. They are a legitimate threat. Bama is still more talented, by a pretty fair margin, but lsu is quickly closing the gap. There are 4-5 teams that are very talented on their schedule. We are due for a favorable bounce or two this year. I'm excited about this season. All this no excuses bs by you O haters is sickening. Just enjoy the positivety and excitement surrounding the program.
** Also I love the "rebuild" thing you call Texas. Lol. Take a look at their recruiting classes prior to Herman. But, you aren't going to be objective there so I'm wasting my time.
** Also I love the "rebuild" thing you call Texas. Lol. Take a look at their recruiting classes prior to Herman. But, you aren't going to be objective there so I'm wasting my time.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 5/11/19 at 1:54 pm to StatMaster
Apu Ika
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:48 pm to Mark17
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Also I love the "rebuild" thing you call Texas. Lol. Take a look at their recruiting classes prior to Herman.
2016: #7
2015: #10
2014: #17
2013: #17
Those aren't terrible classes but they did have losing records every season that Charlie Strong was the coach.
Herman shows up and they go 7-6 his first year, and win 10 games his second year with an appearance in the Big 12 Conference Championship game.
They also beat Georgia in the Sugar Bowl and finish the season ranked #9.
Not too bad for where that program was a couple of seasons ago.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 2:53 pm to StatMaster
Chaisson is the most likely.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:05 pm to earl keese
All that means is that strong couldn't coach. Team had talent.
Btw, I give zero credit for beating GA. For whatever reason, GA had no desire to be there.
Btw, I give zero credit for beating GA. For whatever reason, GA had no desire to be there.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:15 pm to Damone
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Need to get a coach that knows how to coach and recruit the DL...
Can't really argue with this.
Maybe we need to go to watch some Jacksonville Jaguars practices and pick up some pointers.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:18 pm to Goldrush25
I'd be embarrassed siding with damone on anything. But, it's who you are. Just a flat out troll on here. It's pathetic. Just straight up loser.
Posted on 5/11/19 at 3:32 pm to Mark17
You don't know me brother. You just got here according to your join date.
In any event, are you saying that you don't want to shore up the performance of our defensive line? Certainly, we can stand to do that and I don't see how you can disagree. Hell the coach himself said it after the Alabama game didn't he?
He saw a weakness with the offense and to his credit he went out and got Brady. We have a weakness on the defensive line. It only makes sense that he goes out and gets someone that not only can teach the position but knows how to recruit it as well.
In any event, are you saying that you don't want to shore up the performance of our defensive line? Certainly, we can stand to do that and I don't see how you can disagree. Hell the coach himself said it after the Alabama game didn't he?
He saw a weakness with the offense and to his credit he went out and got Brady. We have a weakness on the defensive line. It only makes sense that he goes out and gets someone that not only can teach the position but knows how to recruit it as well.
This post was edited on 5/11/19 at 3:33 pm
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