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re: Ncaa proposed rule change for no huddle

Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:28 pm to
So what happens when a team is down by 10, 14, 17 with 3 or 4 minutes to go and they want to run hurry up ? They are just fricked ?
Posted by glenoaks
Austin
Member since Mar 2009
3358 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 3:29 pm to
Instead of Saban coaching his players how prepare against the no huddle, he bitches and moan to have the rules changed
Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6681 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

So what happens when a team is down by 10, 14, 17 with 3 or 4 minutes to go and they want to run hurry up ? They are just fricked ?


They are talking about 10 seconds from the time the ball becomes dead from the previous play. How quickly do you think a team would be able to get off a play in that situation without the rule change?
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:33 pm to
This is Saban. Pure and simple...nothing more.

Someone had to bring it to the floor..who here really thinks the NCAA gives a frick about this?

Saban spent his whole offseason gutting his coaching staff, buying recruits and changing the rules it seems. 7.5 mil is tough to live up to.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 5:34 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:34 pm to
Saban can't stop it so he has to try to get the rules changed. Punk arse. If everything is not perfectly in his favor he throws a hissy fit.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46027 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:35 pm to
Satan wins again........
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:36 pm to
Yes. Saban deals in absolutes. Sure..10 seconds you could still have a hurry up, no problem. But, he now knows he HAS 10 seconds.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:37 pm to
Still has to pass, which probably will happen with enough arm twisting and payoffs.

Kiffen is on that staff now. Jesus.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

This is a non-rules change year for the NCAA, but exceptions can be made for rules that affect player safety.


Haha such bullshite. What a joke college football has become.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

So what happens when a team is down by 10, 14, 17 with 3 or 4 minutes to go and they want to run hurry up ? They are just fricked ?



What's really stupid is if this rule is being advocated for player safety, then the NCAA is pretty much saying that player safety is super important... until there are two minutes left in the game and you want to win, then frick 'em.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 5:58 pm
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

What's really stupid is if this rule is being advocated for player safety, then the NCAA is pretty much saying that player safety is super important... until there are two minutes left in the game and you want to win, then frick 'em.


That is a really great point. I would love to hear that point brought up during the NCAA Rules Commitee press conference and hear their response. Great point Ross.
Posted by NELA LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2011
1167 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:44 pm to
IMHO, the rules change is unnecessary & is only being considered due to high profile coaching opposition. I've seen nothing to indicate the HUNH presents undue risks to players and tend to believe the truth is more likely the real problem is that it presents defensive challenges that requires additional preparation time coaches would prefer to use otherwise. And, lets face it, defending the HUNH requires a more detailed & disciplined approach & some teams simply do not recruit players capable of adapting to do so effectively.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
17704 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:05 pm to
Very very few plays by any team gets off in less than 10 seconds..... Non-issue IMO
Posted by Bartlett Tiger
Somewhere in the South
Member since Jul 2005
44 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:47 pm to
Well, what else can Saban do, he obviously can't defend this type of offense, so press to get the rules changed. This is an absolute joke. I really am stunned that AL and AR could get this done.
Posted by droliver
Member since Nov 2012
976 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

Very very few plays by any team gets off in less than 10 seconds..... Non-issue IMO


It's not about the play itself per se, it's about neutralizing a tactic that limits player substitutions. By coming to the line, the HUNH is eliminating the ability to rotate players. Few teams are running plays in the 10 seconds discussed. Auburn for instance hurries to the line and then slows day before the snap.

Saban and Bielema do have a point in that there's a philosophical issue about what we want the game to look like. Do we want to eliminate situational substitution? Do we want to discourage complex defensive schemes and the traditional pacing of the game?

HUNH is kind of exploiting a loophole in the rulebook as it relates to substitution and tradition of the game. The idea of increasing injuries from more plays per game and breakdown in techniques from sloppier play is a valid contention when you talk to sports medicine experts as they've both been implicated in increased injury potential (albit not in the context of discussing HUNH style of play)
Posted by tigress77
BR
Member since Sep 2013
322 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

I"m not saying hurry up has no place in football, but for it to become a team's entire lifeblood and scheme? That's bush league and always has been.


I agree and I don't know why everyone is flipping out about this. LSU does NOT use as it's primary offense strategy a hurry up/no huddle offense.
Look at the numbers:
LSU's plays per game avg is 67.7 which puts them at #105 in the country.
Alabama's is 65.9 which puts them at #116 in the country.
By the way Texas Tech was #1 at 90 plays.

LINK

So calm down, it is NOT going to change what LSU does offensively. I guess you guys have forgot about Time Management Miles, not his strong suit, remember!
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 6:54 pm to
It's for player safety but only for 56 minutes

The other 4, it's not about player safety.
Posted by tigress77
BR
Member since Sep 2013
322 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

What's really stupid is if this rule is being advocated for player safety, then the NCAA is pretty much saying that player safety is super important... until there are two minutes left in the game and you want to win, then frick 'em.


You really can't see the diff. between playing the entire game, without being able to Sub def. players during drives and not being able to Sub for 2 minutes?

IT is about being able to SUB, about teams USING their DEPTH and guess what? Teams that have depth on D, it will help. And if you like the D Coordinator, think your D Cord. does a good job, then you like the rule change, it let's a D.Cord. coach.
THIS is NOT going to hurt LSU.

IT WILL hurt teams who use it constantly as a strategy like Texas Tech and OREGON.

I am all for it. How MANY times have you EVER seen LSU call a play, line up, do a def. check and snap the ball under 10 seconds, really?

This HELPS LSU, don't freak about it just cause you think Saban has the power to force this rule change.


This post was edited on 2/15/14 at 9:51 pm
Posted by tigress77
BR
Member since Sep 2013
322 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 7:30 pm to
I NEVER knew there were SOOO Many DUCK fans here, the Oregon kind that is, they are probably quacking mad since THIS directly AFFECTS THEM.
Or are you guys really Red Raider fans, I'm sure they are pissed, they averaged 90 PLAYS a game.

Oh, I know, you guys are really Ole Miss fans, they averaged the most plays run in the SEC at 79.8, or maybe Missouri 75.5 or...

just CLICK on the:

LINK

Again, LSU's avg per game is 67.7; Alabama's 65.9.

This post was edited on 2/15/14 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Stymie
32666 alter Posts
Member since Aug 2011
182 posts
Posted on 2/15/14 at 7:44 pm to
Auburn did it with big LSU tattoo on their backside. Their "Year to Remember" was momentarily interrupted by a Tiger Paw down their backside.
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