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re: Naz was at one point projected as the no. 4 overall pick

Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:47 pm to
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4688 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:47 pm to
Youre a complete a-hole if you did. And why wouldnt he ignore you walking up talking shite. frick u dick
Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4518 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:51 pm to
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You guys need to understand this there was NO decision no influence Naz was a 1 and done you all will shite on his ”decision” even though there never was an actual decision it’s not hard to understand


And his preset decision left money on the table. Unless you think a guy with lottery talent can't improve into the draft with another year's experience.

We try to advocate for what's best for the players, and we always talk about them supporting themselves, well if he had stayed and got a full NBA contract next year, that is better than anything he will get over the next couple of years now. He took the easiest decision and hurt himself, we shouldn't ignore that fact because future players can learn from it.
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
5847 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:53 pm to
Once again I don’t care that I was ignored. If he would have listened he wouldn’t be in this situation. I was appalled at his decision.
Posted by LSUTigers778
Member since Apr 2019
743 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:53 pm to
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And his preset decision left money on the table. Unless you think a guy with lottery talent can't improve into the draft with another year's experience.

We try to advocate for what's best for the players, and we always talk about them supporting themselves, well if he had stayed and got a full NBA contract next year, that is better than anything he will get over the next couple of years now. He took the easiest decision and hurt himself, we shouldn't ignore that fact because future players can learn from it.


Easy for you to say he left money on the table what if he tears his Achilles? And his family needs to money which you guys clearly don’t get
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5796 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:54 pm to
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I watched the guy all year he wasn’t even close to ready.


I thought i was taking crazy pills watching Naz and hearing people saying he would be a 1st round draft pick. The guy owes most of his LSU success to Tremont Waters.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 11:56 pm
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
5847 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:54 pm to
There wasn’t any money on that table bro
Posted by 23hella
STL
Member since Feb 2014
1250 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:58 pm to
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If he would have listened he wouldn’t be in this situation

1. Why would he listen to some random dude rather than nba scouts that invited him to the combine?
2. “This situation” will likely be a 2-way contract, which will allow him to make $50k-$150k next year. It’s not what he wanted, but he’ll be okay.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 11:59 pm
Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4518 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 12:00 am to
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Easy for you to say he left money on the table what if he tears his Achilles? And his family needs to money which you guys clearly don’t get


It is easy for me to say, but I say that with confidence in Naz, that with another year in college he could have fully shown off his talent. And then he would have had his NBA contract, and then his family would have the money they need.

This board is full of LSU fans that will cheer for his success, and no legit human being on this board is happy to say he made a mistake for himself. But some of us can look at it objectively and still say, he made a mistake that we hope future players don't make.
Posted by Disgeaux Bob
North Carolina
Member since Sep 2016
2833 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 12:03 am to
Once they get it in their head that they could potential he be millionaires and not have to go to class it’s over… There’s no turning that ship around. He’s going to wind up being another cautionary tale.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9887 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 12:07 am to
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Name one thing bench press helps with in the NBA


3 reps at 185 for a guy that’s supposed to down low fighting for rebounds is terrible and indicative of lack of commitment in bettering himself.

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Kevin Durant had 0. Kevin Durant was also the slowest person in the sprints in his class. TERRIBLE WORK ETHIC.


Kevin Durant was a wing player, #1 recruit in his class, and played like a lottery pick in his 1 year in college.

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Also, to the OP...you saw a TRASH mock draft. Naz wasn't even top 10 in his HS class coming out, so explain to me how the Hell he was that high?


Because the people that do recruiting rankings and the people that do mock drafts are different people? Because recruiting rankings and mock drafts are projecting different things?

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The highest he was ever on anything was mid 1st round


There are a shite ton of mock drafts. I definitely saw multiple mocks listing Reid in the top 10 back in the fall.

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guy dropped to mid 2nd round. It's not like in football where he went from 1st to 7th round.


No, it’s like he went from 1st to undrafted.

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Some of you people don't understand shite


I understand you have an incessant need to defend all things LSU basketball without fail.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21965 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 12:10 am to
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Easy for you to say he left money on the table what if he tears his Achilles?

If he tears his Achilles...? Hell, why even play, you risk injury.
If he tears his Achilles wherever he ends up now, his career is just as shot. Maybe worse, in fact- at LSU he could redshirt and return again, he'd have a spot guaranteed for up to 4 more years on roster if necessary. Get that injury in a minor league or Europe, and he might just be toast.
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And his family needs to money which you guys clearly don’t get
Worst reason to declare; he's not a commodity or farm animal, he's a man about to be responsible for himself.

I'm sorry that his family needed him to make money for them, because it doesn't look like they will get it.

This really sucks for him, he's got the physical tools to eventually move into the first rd if he'd have stayed here. I think he could be similar to Grant Williams, if he had worked at it- and that's late 1st.
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
5166 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:27 am to
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His father calls the shots Naz didn’t want to leave.


I call bullshite on this. Even if the dad wanted this, Naz was over 18 and its his future not his dads. He should have realized how bad he was, and needed to fix some footwork, dribbling for low post moves, and protecting the bb more, and NOT DECLARE. It was his choice
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59912 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:41 am to
You can’t be this ignorant
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 1:56 am
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16453 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:06 am to
He might improve more in the G-league, but he'll be stuck making $50K/yr for a few yrs. If he stayed another yr and was drafted 1st rd, he could lock in millions.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:09 am to
No one should be surprised by where he landed. Eyes do not deceive. All of the "NBA drafts on potential/raw talent/skill set" talk was foolish. The scouts, coaches and general managers saw what we all saw.
I thought sometimes he looked clumsy.

I wish him well.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
20401 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:15 am to
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Name one thing bench press helps with in the NBA Kevin Durant had 0. Kevin Durant was also the slowest person in the sprints in his class. TERRIBLE WORK ETHIC.
come on dude, he should have been working out. It’s a lot of money on the line and he had to know that this was part of it. Comparing him to Durant is ridiculous
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
47774 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 5:37 am to
Projections means about as much as all of the political polls leading up to 2016 election.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 7:57 am to
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In the G league you get paid money, play better competition, and get NBA style coaching. He can get the same if not better development there that he would have gotten at LSU. Complaining he should have stayed is selfish because you wanted him to play for your team. I would have loved for him to stay but I get why he left.


So why should any player go to college if theres no benefit?
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:02 am to
The thing about being a one and done is that you have to be darn certain you're actually done.

Naz had more game to develop. Still, I'm rather shocked that no one took him in the second round.
Posted by LSU FSU Grad
Member since Jul 2014
2914 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 8:05 am to
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az was at one point projected as the no. 4 overall pick


This was the problem. He was projected to go high and decided he was one and done before he ever arrived in BR. And nothing was going to change that.

He should have stayed. His one year here showed a lot of things that needed work, but the decision was made before all of that and his camp was not going to come off that decision.
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