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Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:57 am to Elleshoe
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really?
Yes
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:59 am to Spotswoode
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Yes
State, Troy, Auburn.. Notre Dame. We came out fired up and prepared in all those games?
Posted on 9/5/18 at 12:01 pm to LNCHBOX
Bash bash bash.....
Posted on 9/5/18 at 12:01 pm to Jrv2damac
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Guys, you act like there aren’t 10-12 more games....
I'm not saying Orgeron is a great coach or that he'll succeed. My point was expressed in the OP; Orgeron is managing all of the processes. I did not think he would be able to do that.
As an example: I thought that each week we would have some glaring weakness, and that Orgeron would jump all over that, fix it, only to see other weaknesses exposed in the next game. That has not happened.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 12:01 pm to Topwater Trout
The Troy game was worse than crap, friend. Maybe that will motivate 0 to build a top shelf program.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 12:02 pm to geauxtigahs87
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Alleva better not even fricking think about offering him a second contract until after the 2019 season.
Agreed, but...
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Alleva
and
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think
Posted on 9/5/18 at 12:04 pm to dukke v
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Bash bash bash.....
How's the hangover?
Posted on 9/5/18 at 12:06 pm to dukke v
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Bash bash bash.....
It's not bashing when someone makes a claim that the team was always well prepared last season, and then someone shows them how that is completely wrong.
I'm all about moving past last season and am getting excited about the prospects of this season, but it's not like people are just pulling things out of thin air to "bash".
Posted on 9/5/18 at 12:09 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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I SWEAR it is never my intention to come and shite on anyone's good feelings...but this kind of stuff kind of begs for a reasonable response.
We are ONE GAME into the 2018 season.
That WAS a reasonable response. I just wish you had responded to what I wrote instead of what you extrapolated. I never said that O was great, or that we would have a good year. I said that my worst fears were allayed. And I said what those fears were. I did not think O could manage the many facets of the program. He has proven that he can. That does not mean he will be a success. Only wins and losses will bear on that.
And no, counting your chickens before they hatch did not literally come from this sort of thing. It literally came from counting your chickens before they hatched.
This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 9/5/18 at 12:23 pm to LNCHBOX
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State, Troy
We had almost no defensive linemen. That was not a preparation problem, unless you consider recruiting three years earlier as game prep. Orgeron screwed up the Canada hire. That's on him, and that contributed to those losses.
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Auburn
We won.
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Notre Dame
We outplayed them. I don't think missing two field goals and giving up that bomb at the end were indicative of poor preparation.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 12:29 pm to Spotswoode
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We had almost no defensive linemen. That was not a preparation problem
Then how do you explain our atrocious offensive performances in both games?
I really would like for everyone's focus to shift to this season and not keep harping on the failures of last season, but I can't just let these stupid-arse statements go by. We were poorly prepared for Troy and State and I cant fathom how someone could disagree, DL injuries or not.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 12:41 pm to Spotswoode
Let's wait until after the season before deciding anything regarding coaching
Posted on 9/5/18 at 12:59 pm to LNCHBOX
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State, Troy, Auburn.. Notre Dame. We came out fired up and prepared in all those games?
State and Troy.... no. State, in particular, they seemed like a team without a plan and wholly unprepared for what the other team might try to do. A total cluster.
But Auburn? O clearly outcoached Gus in that one. Gus failed to use his biggest advantage, his superior running game, when nursing a huge lead. O went for the throat at the end of the first half to get the team back in it, and made the right call to kick the long field goal when it was fourth and short. He didn't let his desire for more points allow him to get too greedy. And Notre Dame, LSU outplayed and simply got unlucky on the final drive (and his kickers were simply terrible).
The point here is that O got better as the season went on and adjusted to the realities of his roster. I don't think he's Knute Rockne, but he leveraged the Troy loss into motivation for the team when it could have sent a lesser coach spiraling into the abyss. It's not losing a bad game that kills a team, its how you react to the bad loss. This team responded by winning every game save Bama to make a nice bowl game. O did a better job than he gets credit for in Year One (now admittedly, he dug his own hole... that first month was unspeakably terrible, but he pulled out of the tailspin in impressive fashion).
Posted on 9/5/18 at 1:05 pm to Baloo
Posted on 9/5/18 at 1:15 pm to Spotswoode
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I did not think O could manage the many facets of the program. He has proven that he can
How do you know that after one game?
We looked pretty good after two games last season too. The fissures weren't apparent until we took a good punch from another team.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 1:27 pm to LNCHBOX
A miracle?
Wow.
Your shite is getting so old.
Wow.
Your shite is getting so old.
This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 9/5/18 at 1:27 pm to TigerCliff777
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not what we think about the hire of CEO - that's over
it is now about the job he does and the team he puts on the field
Yet every tard wanted herman. Wanna compare records so far?
Posted on 9/5/18 at 1:31 pm to Spotswoode
I am not comfortable yet predicting how O will do, but the one thing I suspect most observers can agree on is that he is not above making changes to address what he thinks are weaknesses. He's changed the OL coach, the OC, and brought in a number of consultants. The recruiting has not been lights out - yet - but he has only had one real recruiting class. Moreover, he went hard after positions of need and got a lot done with transfers that don't factor into the rankings. I suspect most would agree that Burrow and Tracy factored heavily in the win over Miami, so O probably achieved more with this last class than our recruiting rankings showed.
So, while there is a ton still to play out, one thing I can say I do like is that O is not too afraid or too stubborn to make changes.
So, while there is a ton still to play out, one thing I can say I do like is that O is not too afraid or too stubborn to make changes.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 1:31 pm to p&g
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A miracle?
Wow.
Your shite is getting so old.
I knew you couldn't be objective.
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