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re: My thoughts on the Kevin Steele hire
Posted on 7/4/15 at 11:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 7/4/15 at 11:08 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Wanna take a guess which sec west team got an extra home game?
Don't forget the 2013 famous bridge schedule that suddenly has a trip to Ga. taken off the Bama schedule and Kent. added to their schedule.
Who gets to take Bama's place on the Ga. schedule,....LSU.
It's not only who you play, but it's also who you don't have to play.
As to KS, any coach good enough to hired 2 times by Nick, I am willing to see what he brings to the table before I break out my cliff jumping gear.
This post was edited on 7/4/15 at 11:14 pm
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 9:25 am to Lonnie4LSU
All this stuff about bridge schedules, having to play Florida every year, LSU taking Bama's place on Georgia's schedule, PP7 was inbounds, this or that was a bullshite call - it's all what losers say to explain their losing. Bama has simply been better. Any fool can see that.
If you listen to Ole Miss or Miss State fans talk about LSU over the years you'll hear the same litany of referrees cheating, clocks running (or not running),etc.
I'm not saying some of this isn't legit, it's just very unbecoming and a little embarrassing.
If you listen to Ole Miss or Miss State fans talk about LSU over the years you'll hear the same litany of referrees cheating, clocks running (or not running),etc.
I'm not saying some of this isn't legit, it's just very unbecoming and a little embarrassing.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 9:34 am to semjase
Nice to read such a well-informed, insightful and positive response. I'm equally amazed at your analysis of the team and coaches. I just wish Coach Miles would listen to you, since you've got a better handle on things than he and the coaches.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 10:17 am to Penrod
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All this stuff about bridge schedules, having to play Florida every year, LSU taking Bama's place on Georgia's schedule, PP7 was inbounds, this or that was a bullshite call - it's all what losers say to explain their losing. Bama has simply been better. Any fool can see that.
If you listen to Ole Miss or Miss State fans talk about LSU over the years you'll hear the same litany of referrees cheating, clocks running (or not running),etc.
I'm not saying some of this isn't legit, it's just very unbecoming and a little embarrassing.
Yep. It's certainly been a torrent of excuses on this thread.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 11:11 am to Lonnie4LSU
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Don't forget the 2013 famous bridge schedule that suddenly has a trip to Ga. taken off the Bama schedule and Kent. added to their schedule.
Who gets to take Bama's place on the Ga. schedule,....LSU.
It's not only who you play, but it's also who you don't have to play.
Any fan base in the country, in any conference, faced with anything like the above...would legitimately go nuts. And deservedly so.
As LSU fans, all we want is a level playing field. Too often, there hasn't been one.
Has that been the only problem with LSU football specifically and LSU sports in general? No. But it has been and probably will continue to be.
Because some people in this conference would rather walk a mile to lie, cheat, and steal than stand still and do the right and honorable thing.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 12:43 pm to Penrod
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All this stuff about bridge schedules, having to play Florida every year, LSU taking Bama's place on Georgia's schedule, PP7 was inbounds, this or that was a bullshite call - it's all what losers say to explain their losing. Bama has simply been better. Any fool can see that.
If you think not playing UGA since 2008 and USC since 2010 doesnt help bama have better records, then you're delusional. Like I said, bama hasn't played the 1st,2nd or 3rd place east finisher in 5 seasons while their two main west opponents play them every year.
This post was edited on 7/5/15 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 7/5/15 at 12:54 pm to Rickdaddy4188
I don't think the talent gap between Bama and LSU is big. Bama might have a very slight edge but it's not significant enough to matter. Just look at what LSU puts into the NFL. It's close for both teams. Bama seems more talented because of their coaching. This goes back to what I said earlier in the thread you can't just have talent and completely lack coaching. Bama vs. LSU is actually a great argument for it because the talent is similar yet you see a gap between the teams thanks to having the best coach in the NCAA. The reason Bama has high bust players that go to the NFL is because Saban makes them hit their ceilings in college while LSU players seem to have more success in the NFL recently because their ceilings are not being met in college. That's coaching.
I don't think Miles is a bad coach at all. He's just in the unfortunate position of having to live up to an even better coach who use to be here who's now coaching our division rival and dominating at it. If Saban didn't exist in this conference the tune would be totally different on here about Miles. You could look at a 3 year window and say that Saban was the main reason from preventing us being a possible dynasty in that period. The roles were reversed. Miles is not the best coach in this conference but if you took LSU's team and put them in another conference they'd be in the playoffs every year. SEC has so much money invested in top coaches.
Miles needs to surround himself with excellent assistants while Saban has proven he can pick the slack up and is more of a controlling HC over his program.
I don't think Miles is a bad coach at all. He's just in the unfortunate position of having to live up to an even better coach who use to be here who's now coaching our division rival and dominating at it. If Saban didn't exist in this conference the tune would be totally different on here about Miles. You could look at a 3 year window and say that Saban was the main reason from preventing us being a possible dynasty in that period. The roles were reversed. Miles is not the best coach in this conference but if you took LSU's team and put them in another conference they'd be in the playoffs every year. SEC has so much money invested in top coaches.
Miles needs to surround himself with excellent assistants while Saban has proven he can pick the slack up and is more of a controlling HC over his program.
This post was edited on 7/5/15 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 7/5/15 at 12:59 pm to JJBTiger2012
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I think the D will be special and elite for yrs to come.
I honestly wish that we could say the same about offense. It's always been the heel. We've been soooooo talented on offense in the only to squander it away, and have one year here and there were we are extremely productive and fun to watch. Its unfortunate that one of the more recent trends where LSU had a great offense, we couldn't stop anyone to save our lives.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 1:50 pm to deuce985
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Bama seems more talented because of their coaching.
And the fact that their best players get an extra year of it compared to LSU's best.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 2:23 pm to Penrod
quote:I'm extremely tired of hearing our fans talk about Bama but this is a pretty bad comparison. I'm pretty sure every Bama vs LSU game in the last 6 years except for one has been decided by less than a touchdown and a lot of the time it's in the last few minutes of the game. When a series is that tight and competitive you don't have much room for ole bug eyes Tom Ritter to randomly decide to throw a flag and give Bama a mulligan with 2 minutes left while they're down by 3 points and on the 50 yard line. It'd be one thing if they were kicking our asses like we always did to Moo State and Ole Miss but, in several games, the flags really have partially decided the outcome of extremely hard fought games and that's not debatable IMO
If you listen to Ole Miss or Miss State fans talk about LSU over the years you'll hear the same litany of referrees cheating, clocks running (or not running),etc.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 2:25 pm to southeasttiger113
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the flags really have partially decided the outcome of extremely hard fought games and that's not debatable IMO
There are close games that LSU plays that they get away with things that help them in winning..It happens all the time....
Posted on 7/5/15 at 5:19 pm to Penrod
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I'm not saying some of this isn't legit,
It's all "legit" and it all adds up. I understand that you line up and play who you have to play and if you get beat, you get beat. But right now, we are not playing anyone and this is the time to discuss things of this type as opposed to in Sept. At that time it would be unbecoming, but not when we aren't playing football. imo
Having the SEC home office change the football scheduling at the 11th hr. in a way that distinctly favors one SECW team over the other SECW teams, particularly LSU, was the real embarrassment. Even if there was no intent, it smelled like a spoiled chicken.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 6:19 pm to deuce985
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Bama might have a very slight edge but it's not significant enough to matter
bullshite. Facts prove otherwise. LSU has not recruited as well as bama has. NO program has. Only 1 of lsu's last 3 classes were in the top 5 while Bama's classes have all been #1.
quote:uh Miles has surpassed Saban's success at lsu and it's not close.
don't think Miles is a bad coach at all. He's just in the unfortunate position of having to live up to an even better coac
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Bama vs. LSU is actually a great argument for it because the talent is similar yet you see a gap between the teams thanks to having the best coach in the NCAA. The reason Bama has high bust players that go to the NFL is because Saban makes them hit their ceilings in college while LSU players seem to have more success in the NFL recently because their ceilings are not being met in college. That's coaching.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 7:52 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Someone should write a book about all the shady calls Alabama and Auburn have benefitted from in SEC football history. 
Posted on 7/5/15 at 8:08 pm to timlan2057
He and coach O are on fire.
Posted on 7/5/15 at 11:22 pm to drizztiger
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Sweet. So losing 3 of the last 6 games scoring an average of 19ppg (including 41 points against UK) was progress.
Nice.
So you're saying nothing changed from Auburn to Florida.. sweet... nice...
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:10 am to DEG
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Junior class attrition and lack of QB talent have had more to do with this than X's and O's.
Who's fault?
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:33 am to YouAre8Up
The NFL CBA...? You don't think it's odd that the mass exodus of LSU juniors to the NFL began the season immediately following the new rookie wage scale in the NFL? If you're a late round draft prospect, it's really not worth sticking around to improve your draft stock anymore.
Get drafted, perform at the next level, and get your second contract. That's all it is anymore.
As far as Quarterbacks, it's all about recruiting.
Under Les Miles, the following players have signed LOIs:
Jimbo Fisher
Ryan Perrilloux #1 QB, #6 National
Jarrett Lee #8 QB, #117 National
Gary Crowton
Jordan Jefferson #12 QB, #324 National
Russell Shepard #1 ATH, #3 National
Chris Garrett #19 QB, #492 National
Zach Lee #18 QB, #348 National
Zach Mettenberger #1 QB, #4 National (JUCO)
Jerrard Randall #8 QB, #186 National
Stephen Rivers #20 QB, #617 National
Greg Studrawa/Steve Kragthorpe
Jeremy Liggins #19 ATH, #263 National
Hayden Rettig #9 QB, #152 National
Anthony Jennings #14 QB, #213 National
Cam Cameron
Brandon Harris #3 QB, #75 National
Justin McMillan #36 QB, UR National
Feleipe Franks #1 QB #45 National
Zadock Dinkelmann Class of '18 unranked
You think it's a coincidence that QB recruiting has been elite when we've had an experienced and knowledgable QB Coach/OC, and it's been terrible when we've had a QB Coach/OC that couldn't keep a job at fricking Maryland?
Get drafted, perform at the next level, and get your second contract. That's all it is anymore.
As far as Quarterbacks, it's all about recruiting.
Under Les Miles, the following players have signed LOIs:
Jimbo Fisher
Ryan Perrilloux #1 QB, #6 National
Jarrett Lee #8 QB, #117 National
Gary Crowton
Jordan Jefferson #12 QB, #324 National
Russell Shepard #1 ATH, #3 National
Chris Garrett #19 QB, #492 National
Zach Lee #18 QB, #348 National
Zach Mettenberger #1 QB, #4 National (JUCO)
Jerrard Randall #8 QB, #186 National
Stephen Rivers #20 QB, #617 National
Greg Studrawa/Steve Kragthorpe
Jeremy Liggins #19 ATH, #263 National
Hayden Rettig #9 QB, #152 National
Anthony Jennings #14 QB, #213 National
Cam Cameron
Brandon Harris #3 QB, #75 National
Justin McMillan #36 QB, UR National
Feleipe Franks #1 QB #45 National
Zadock Dinkelmann Class of '18 unranked
You think it's a coincidence that QB recruiting has been elite when we've had an experienced and knowledgable QB Coach/OC, and it's been terrible when we've had a QB Coach/OC that couldn't keep a job at fricking Maryland?
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 7:37 am
Posted on 7/6/15 at 7:52 am to bayoubengalfan4life
Bama currently has 15 5 star guys.. Lsu has 5.
Bama has more.
Bama has more.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 11:39 am to Meaux Bettah
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The "Talent" at Alabama is no better than at LSU, yet they win the SEC and/or NC with consistent regularity.
i can't tell if this is a pro LSU outlook thinking we are doing better in recruiting than we are. or a reason to pump up this aspect to bash miles' coaching (which is probably mostly the case).
bama not only beats LSU in recruiting every yr, they beat everyone.
i mean everyone.
i'm sorry, Gary Oldman in the Professional, what was that again??
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