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re: My Final Take on the Outback Bowl

Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by BrewHawk
Lucas, TX
Member since Nov 2004
319 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:27 pm to
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Depends on how the coaching staff approaches Jennings. Hopefully they let him open it up and get confident. Not try to force a running game(Iowa will be looking to stop our running game). And put him in a position where he has to throw to win.

If the coaches let Jennings throw. Games over.

I think if he "opens it up" too much you might be pissed off that you guys aren't trying to establish a run game after he throws a couple picks. Again, there's gotta be a mix of a short controlled passing game with a balance of a run threat. If Jennings is forced to win the game with his arm, then game over for Iowa.

If the Florida and Bama CB's couldn't match up with Beckham and Landry, what makes you think your Iowa corners can?

It's about the scheme. Bama thinks their corners can man up with anyone. We know we can't, but the scheme is to limit big plays (which we haven't been as good at this year, but are improving). You will see the corners up to ten yards off the LOS, with good underneath coverage from our great LBs.

One thing Jennings seems to do better than Mettenberger is find his TE. If he can find his TE and RB's in the passing game to further open up Landry and Beckham(as well as Boone or Dural), this game could get ugly.

Again, I like our LBs against anyone. I agree that TEs can be a great weapon in the passing game (see Iowa's offense for example). Jennings will need to be patient and make good decisions. Iowa has blitzed more this year due to the solid LB corps.

LSU 35 Iowa 13


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Posted by BarryZuckerkorn
Member since Dec 2013
4 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:32 pm to
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90% (106 of 119) of senior starters under Ferentz signed an NFL contract (draft or free agent). I would say that's pretty damn good for the "crappy talent" we get to Iowa City.


Brewhawk, are you the same jackhole who was posting crap on the NIU board before the season?

You feel confident? Fine, but please don't post ridiculous crap.

Nobody cares about seniors singing an UDFA and then getting cut in camp.

There are actual stats out there to defend yourself. For example, this link will show that Iowa is currently 13th in Active NFL players by college.

Of course LSU is better (3rd), but I saw that LSU has 10 more 4/5 star players on their current roster than Iowa has signed in the last 10 years combined. So for what they get, 13th isn't too shabby.

Additionally, holding LSU to 100 yards rushing? You look like an arse.

Here's some actual data:

Team | Avg | v. Iowa |Over/Under Avg | % of Avg
NIU | 312 | 163 | -149 | 52%
ISU | 143 | 59 | -84 | 41%
WMU | 116 | 74 | -42 | 64%
Minny | 200 | 30 | -170 | 15%
MSU | 182 | 135 | -47 | 74%
OSU | 317 | 273 | -44 | 86%
NW | 172 | 225 | 53 | 131%
Wisky | 283 | 218 | -65 | 77%
Purdue | 67 | 53 | -14 | 79%
Michigan | 130 | 60 | -70 | 46%
Neb | 221 | 89 | -132 | 40%
Total | 2143 | 1379 | -764 | 64%

Sorry that's jumbled, but it shows Iowa has held 10/11 opponents (no avg for Mizz State) under their rushing average this year.

I expect LSU to put up 150-175 on the ground.
This post was edited on 12/26/13 at 5:44 pm
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7626 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

BrewHawk


You trust your DB's too much. The world knows what Landry and Beckham can do. The question is Jennings.

You bring up yall are doing well now. What legitimate team have you beaten? An over rated Michigan team? An over rated Nebraska team? The 4 above decent teams yall have played this year are your losses.

Good luck in the game.
Posted by BrewHawk
Lucas, TX
Member since Nov 2004
319 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Brewhawk, are you the same jackhole who was posting crap on the NIU board before the season?

You feel confident? Fine, but please don't post ridiculous crap.

Nobody cares about seniors singing an UDFA and then getting cut in camp.

There are actual stats out there to defend yourself. For example, LINK will show that Iowa is currently 13th in Active NFL players by college.

Of course LSU is better (3rd), but I saw that LSU has 10 more 4/5 star players on their current roster than Iowa has signed in the last 10 years combined. So for what they get, 13th isn't too shabby.

Additionally, holding LSU to 100 yards rushing? You look like an arse.

Here's some actual data:

Team | Avg | v. Iowa |Over/Under Avg | % of Avg
NIU | 312 | 163 | -149 | 52%
ISU | 143 | 59 | -84 | 41%
WMU | 116 | 74 | -42 | 64%
Minny | 200 | 30 | -170 | 15%
MSU | 182 | 135 | -47 | 74%
OSU | 317 | 273 | -44 | 86%
NW | 172 | 225 | 53 | 131%
Wisky | 283 | 218 | -65 | 77%
Purdue | 67 | 53 | -14 | 79%
Michigan | 130 | 60 | -70 | 46%
Neb | 221 | 89 | -132 | 40%
Total | 2143 | 1379 | -764 | 64%

Sorry that's jumbled, but it shows Iowa has held 10/11 opponents (no avg for Mizz State) under their rushing average this year.

I expect LSU to put up 150-175 on the ground.


Yep, I post crap. So sue me for being optimistic.

If you go by your stats, 64% of LSU's season average would be 128 yards for the game. Screw off for those 28 yards.

That said, if we hold them to the 150-175 yards you state, we will still win the game.
Posted by BrewHawk
Lucas, TX
Member since Nov 2004
319 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:46 pm to
double post
This post was edited on 12/26/13 at 5:51 pm
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13295 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

That said, if we hold them to the 150-175 yards you state, we will still win the game.




you sound ridiculous.

Your defense won't be able to stop LSU, Bama barely stopped it. The game should have been closer than what it was. LSU fumbled on the goaline taking 7 off the board, and seemed to get frustrated throughout the game. In the Ole Miss game Mett threw 3 picks in the first half and 2 were when we had the ball inside OM 40.

those are the only two games you can say teams limited LSUs offense.

LSU starting running back after being suspended the first two games has over 1100 yards and our 2 starting wr have over 1100 yards.
Posted by BrewHawk
Lucas, TX
Member since Nov 2004
319 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

you sound ridiculous.

Your defense won't be able to stop LSU, Bama barely stopped it. The game should have been closer than what it was. LSU fumbled on the goaline taking 7 off the board, and seemed to get frustrated throughout the game. In the Ole Miss game Mett threw 3 picks in the first half and 2 were when we had the ball inside OM 40.

those are the only two games you can say teams limited LSUs offense.

LSU starting running back after being suspended the first two games has over 1100 yards and our 2 starting wr have over 1100 yards.



I like our chances. If I'm wrong, I'll be back to give congratulations. It's not like there's a whole lot to lose by posting on a message board.

Good luck to you guys. Always have liked the LSU fanbase.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7626 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:58 pm to
I will go on record saying that either Hill or Magee will eclipse 100 yards. For you saying our entire rushing game won't have 100 yards.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216049 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 5:59 pm to
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BrewHawk




quote:

In the end, I see Iowa winning 24-13 or 33-23. A greater spread wouldn't surprise me in the least, especially if Jennings struggles






You don't know shite about the SEC or how much more talent has than Iowa.... If you think Iowa is gonna hold LSU to 13 points then you are a retard....
Posted by tigers32
Member since Mar 2012
5785 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

Your defense won't be able to stop LSU, Bama barely stopped it. The game should have been closer than what it was. LSU fumbled on the goaline taking 7 off the board, and seemed to get frustrated throughout the game. In the Ole Miss game Mett threw 3 picks in the first half and 2 were when we had the ball inside OM 40. those are the only two games you can say teams limited LSUs offense. LSU starting running back after being suspended the first two games has over 1100 yards and our 2 starting wr have over 1100 yards.

I don't think Iowa will be able to handle our offense very easily, but all the information you just posted was with Mett on the field. Hard to say we'll go out there, and air it out like we did with Mett. Jennings will have to play pretty well for a freshman for us to win.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216049 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:08 pm to
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I like our chances. If I'm wrong, I'll be back to give congratulations







quote:

It's not like there's a whole lot to lose by posting on a message board.



This is SERIOUS BISINESS...........



quote:

Good luck to you guys. Always have liked the LSU fanbase.



I love the passion you have for your team..... And if somehow Iowa wins I will be here to congrat them on a HUGE win for their program....
Posted by BrewHawk
Lucas, TX
Member since Nov 2004
319 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:11 pm to
Yeah, I really don't know what to think for the Mett vs. Jennings situation.

Iowa typically fares better vs. pocket passers over mobile QBs, but Mett was having a great season and has very good experience where Jennings has essentially none.

We have no game tape on Jennings, but I don't see the offense changing wholesale in three weeks after he's spent a whole season in it. I do think that you may see some plays where the defense gets run off the LOS and allows Jennings some running room.

All in all I think I'd rather face the known entity vs. the unknown, but Mett was playing so well, that it is likely better that we're seeing an inexperienced QB in his first start, even despite the mobility factor.
Posted by BrewHawk
Lucas, TX
Member since Nov 2004
319 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

I love the passion you have for your team..... And if somehow Iowa wins I will be here to congrat them on a HUGE win for their program....


Kinda hard to have a HUGE win in the Outback Bowl vs a team that isn't in the top ten, but it would be nice to cap a comeback season with a victory against a decent team that nobody expects us to beat.

Next year will be better.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22201 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:15 pm to
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t think Iowa will be able to handle our offense very easily, but all the information you just posted was with Mett on the field. Hard to say we'll go out there, and air it out like we did with Mett. Jennings will have to play pretty well for a freshman for us to win.


I agree, if Mett wasn't hurt, LSU wins big. I don't know what to think about Jennings. He's very talented, but he's also a true freshman, with little to no experience.
Posted by BarryZuckerkorn
Member since Dec 2013
4 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

Yeah, I really don't know what to think for the Mett vs. Jennings situation.

Iowa typically fares better vs. pocket passers over mobile QBs, but Mett was having a great season and has very good experience where Jennings has essentially none.

We have no game tape on Jennings, but I don't see the offense changing wholesale in three weeks after he's spent a whole season in it. I do think that you may see some plays where the defense gets run off the LOS and allows Jennings some running room.

All in all I think I'd rather face the known entity vs. the unknown, but Mett was playing so well, that it is likely better that we're seeing an inexperienced QB in his first start, even despite the mobility factor.


I'm on the opposite side of that.

I would give Iowa 0% chance vs Mett as he would carve up our secondary.

Everything I've read about Jennings suggests, that while mobile, he's not a run first QB. I think Jennings is closer to Devin Gardner than Braxton Miller.

I read an interview w/Beckham or Landry (or both? IDK) that talked about needing to adjust more to Jennings' ball vs Mett. I also read Jennings was completing less than 50% in practice.

I think there's a decent chance Jennings throws at least one pick.
This post was edited on 12/26/13 at 6:25 pm
Posted by thanksjhester
Sonic
Member since Jun 2009
5707 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:32 pm to
Do you Yanks watch football? Post is dumb.
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72121 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

My Final Take


Thank fricking god
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83042 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:43 pm to
Iowa could win big if AJ doesn't fare well and the DL gets abused like it always does.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11944 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 6:48 pm to
You really don't understand SEC football, do you?
Posted by GeauxLSU8
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4242 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 7:11 pm to
Ok I read .... not tl.

First, you said that last year you had a team that was not mature and went 4-8. This year LSU had a team that was not mature and went 9-3 in the SEC WEST.

quote:

I see your running game being limited


I don't

quote:

We have a decided advantage in the penalty department


Not necessarily .... One word... Bugeyes. Don't worry if you don't know what that means. He won't be reffing this game Thank God! Having said that we do have a problem with false starts. Hope we get that cleaned up.

I don't think this will be a blowout on either side. Of course Jennings is the unknown commodity. If he has a good day, LSU will roll. If he doesn't, it will be close but I still think LSU can win. It is not going to be a cakewalk.

I respect your passion for your team.




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