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re: Move Laird down in the lineup if he doesnt hit well this weekend

Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:29 am to
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:29 am to
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I understand his role, but the kid is not fulfilling it


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but as of now he is a hole in the batting order.


Some of the things people post on here are hysterical. Saying a true freshman that is batting .286, is second on the team in runs with 40, has the second most at bats per strikeout and is third on the team in steals is not fulfilling his role and is a hole in the lineup. Do you have any clue what the role of the 2 hole hitter is?
Posted by AstroTiger
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Member since Oct 2007
22967 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:30 am to
Seeing this just 1 game would make me very happy.

1) McMullen RF
2) Rhymes LF
3) Bregman SS
4) Katz 1B
5) Ibarra 3B
6) Moore DH
7) Jones 2B
8) Ross C
9) Laird CF
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:31 am to
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2 - Rhymes
3 - Ibarra
4 - Bregman
5 - Katz


And yet it can still get worse. Wow.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96839 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:32 am to
He had a good nonconference (which is where he racked up most of the stats you mentioned) but he hasnt been good once we got into conference play. You seem to like stats, go look at his conference stats.

I think Laird would be best suited at 9 as a second leadoff. This issue is who goes into the 2 hole. I'm not crazy about Rhymes there and the only other viable option i can think of is JJ, and I'm certainly not thrilled about that either.
Posted by Trent
Member since Jan 2008
2151 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:32 am to
I like him at the 2 b/c he can bunt and he's a lefty. He'll come out of it.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87176 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:34 am to
I like this better

1) McMullen RF
2) Laird CF
3) Bregman SS
4) Katz 1B
5) Ibarra 3B
6) Rhymes LF
7) Moore DH
8) Ross C
9) Jones 2B
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:34 am to
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You seem to like stats, go look at his conference stats

Im giving stats to back up my point. I don't think he is failing to play up to his role and I don't think he is a "hole" in the lineup.

I have been saying since preseason that I thought Rhymes would be the perfect 2 hole hitter which seems to be what a lot of people in here mentioned. Never once did I say Laird is the perfect 2 hole hitter and PM should never consider moving him. I think to say he is a hole in the lineup is dumb.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96839 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:35 am to
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I don't think he is failing to play up to his role and I don't think he is a "hole" in the lineup.


Well if you would look at his stats in the conference you would see that through 60% of the conference slate he has in fact been a hole in the lineup.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81715 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:59 am to
Its pretty simple. He started out well and has faltered in conference play. The dude was hitting like .350 less than a month ago. Thats a hell of a drop
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81715 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:00 am to
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1) McMullen RF
2) Rhymes LF
3) Bregman SS
4) Katz 1B
5) Ibarra 3B
6) Moore DH
7) Jones 2B
8) Ross C
9) Laird CF



JIMP, may switch Jacoby and Ross so that if the 8 spot gets on Laird can move him over and Ross doesnt run as well as Jacoby
This post was edited on 4/25/13 at 10:03 am
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:05 am to
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Its pretty simple.

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The dude was hitting like .350 less than a month ago.

Right so he's had a few bad weeks. One of which was against one of the top pitching staffs around. He could just as easily hit the last 4 weeks of the season like he did the rest of the entire season. To say that as a true freshman he isn't living up to his role is dumb. It is pretty simple.

As a true freshman, what should his role be? To hit .350? That doesn't happen very often.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81715 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:35 am to
I didnt say i expected him to hit .350. But the 2 hole hitter should be somewhere .300. Whats his average in SEC play?
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:39 am to
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But the 2 hole hitter should be somewhere .300.


I never once said he should stay in the 2 hole. In fact I said the opposite. I think Rhymes would be a good fit. I don't consider a true freshman that was hitting .350 less than a month ago to not be playing up to his role or to be a hole in the lineup. He hasn't played well for a few weeks and I think PM could consider moving him for the time being to try to re-ignite the offense.

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Whats his average in SEC play?

I believe right around the .225 mark through 18 games in one of the toughest conferences in the nation as a true freshman. I guess it's a good thing he has done well enough in the other 24 games that LSU has played that weren't conference games that his average is still able to sit at .286 despite struggling during SEC play.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:40 am to
all i care about is OBP and his is still very good
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:43 am to
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all i care about is OBP and his is still very good

Bingo. Still has a high OBP and is probably the fastest guy on the team. As a true freshman, I don't understand how anyone can possible say the kid isn't playing up to his role on the team. He has fricking stuggled some in the SEC, but is still hitting .286 with an OBP around .375.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96839 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:43 am to
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all i care about is OBP and his is still very good


in the conference it aint great.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7863 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:43 am to
He's struggling and has been struggling. This didn't just start happening. Even when he gets base hits it seems like they are weak or infield singles.(nothing wrong with that though) like I said. It's prolly good idea to keep him there but there is no denying. If it gets worse and continues then maybe we make a change. Good solid players to choose from.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96839 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:44 am to
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Bingo. Still has a high OBP and is probably the fastest guy on the team. As a true freshman, I don't understand how anyone can possible say the kid isn't playing up to his role on the team. He has fricking stuggled some in the SEC, but is still hitting .286 with an OBP around .375.


his OBP is like .300 in league play. post the stats that actually matter at this point. i realize he inflated his avg and obp in nonconference play (hell most people do) but when you look at his SEC stats (which is all that matters at this point) he likely deserves to be moved down. The only caveat is if you are gonna move him down you need to have an answer at who takes his place, and im not sure who would be good there really.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:44 am to
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in the conference it aint great.


it aint terrible either
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 4/25/13 at 10:45 am to
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It's prolly good idea to keep him there but there is no denying. If it gets worse and continues then maybe we make a change


By make a change I don't know if you are saying move him down in the lineup or take him out. If you think take him out, then that's just ridiculous. If you are saying switch the lineup around, I agree. I have said that about 4 times in this thread.

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Even when he gets base hits it seems like they are weak or infield singles.(nothing wrong with that though) like I said.


No, there is nothing wrong when the fastest guy on the team hits groundballs and then beats them out for infield hits. He isn't in the lineup to drive the ball out of the ballpark and knock in a lot of runs.
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