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re: Most overpaid def. coaches in college football 2018, LSU got their money’s worth in Aranda
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:18 pm to DesenselessPlayer
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:18 pm to DesenselessPlayer
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Just getting that bar to the same apparently acceptable low that the offense is at
Look at that team spirit
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Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The defense did play below expectations at times, There's no doubt about it.
It doesn't mean he's not very good, just means he's had better years
29th isn't great with the talent we had, I think losing our edge rusher screwed his scheme up a bit. I certainly think he's worth what he's being paid but yeah, I also expect better than 29th. If it slips this year we will have a problem
Substitute the word "team" in for defense and you've got my critique of Orgeron, nearly word for word.
That sure is weird considering the way you throw a fit every time I post about it.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:20 pm to Topwater Trout
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why do y’all lower the bar for our defense?
Are you being serious? How low is the damn bar for the offense then? You can't have it both ways.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:20 pm to RB10
Being ranked outside the top 20 defensively is ok with you? That’s what you expect from an LSU defense? Oh that’s right the A&M is the offenses fault bc they couldn’t get a 1st down...the reason you pay DA top money is so you can rely on his defense in situations like that.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:21 pm to Jack Crevalle
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Are you being serious? How low is the damn bar for the offense then? You can't have it both ways.
But but but the offense just had shitty players so it’s excusable. At least that’s what I read here.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:24 pm to RB10
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That sure is weird considering the way you throw a fit every time I post about it.
That's virtually impossible since that's basically all you do.
You're living in the past. He's gone, get over it
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Substitute the word "team" in for defense and you've got my critique of Orgeron, nearly word for word.
Finished ranked sixth so..
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:25 pm to Topwater Trout
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Being ranked outside the top 20 defensively is ok with you? That’s what you expect from an LSU defense? Oh that’s right the A&M is the offenses fault bc they couldn’t get a 1st down...the reason you pay DA top money is so you can rely on his defense in situations like that.
12th in efficiency is all I really care about. The defense was bad by LSU standards in 2017. It was very good by any standards in 2018.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:26 pm to Jack Crevalle
there isn’t one LSU fan that doesn’t want the offense to improve. That isn’t even debatable but apparently there are tiger fans that have lowered the expectations for our defense.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:27 pm to Topwater Trout
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Being ranked outside the top 20 defensively is ok with you? That’s what you expect from an LSU defense? Oh that’s right the A&M is the offenses fault bc they couldn’t get a 1st down...the reason you pay DA top money is so you can rely on his defense in situations like that.
I expect both to pull their weight. The defense did that 95% of the time. The offense did it maybe 3 times.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:32 pm to Jack Crevalle
dude gave up 77 points in one game 
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:32 pm to RB10
As bad as our offense was this year they rarely turned the ball over giving opponents short fields and our special teams also forced most teams to go 70 yards or more. I would love to see a stat for avg starting field position for our opponents and where that ranks nationally
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:32 pm to Topwater Trout
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there isn’t one LSU fan that doesn’t want the offense to improve. That isn’t even debatable but apparently there are tiger fans that have lowered the expectations for our defense.
We all want both to be #1 but that’s unrealistic. The defense was within acceptable range this year. The offense was not and has not been for years.
If the defense continues at this level or gets worse, then we can talk.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:33 pm to Topwater Trout
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there isn’t one LSU fan that doesn’t want the offense to improve. That isn’t even debatable but apparently there are tiger fans that have lowered the expectations for our defense.
Based on previous results, Aranda's earned the right to be cut a little slack for a subpar year (to his standards). Ensminger? No comment.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:35 pm to Strannix
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dude gave up 77 points in one game
Nope. OT is not the same due to the offense starting at the 25 yard line. Blaming that on the defense is stupid. I could just as easily blame the offense for not scoring touchdowns every possession in OT.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:37 pm to DesenselessPlayer
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the defense continues at this level
Interesting ...
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:45 pm to Jack Crevalle
The fact is we have tons of talent on defense compared to offense. Yeh it hurt Chaison was lost for the season but I expect the highest paid DC to overcome that. The problems I have with our defense is we don’t blitz a lot. I see teams with far less talent pressuring the qb more than we do and that’s s heme (see it works both ways)The Florida game we allowed their qb to have a great game and he sucked all season til he faced us.
It’s funny though the same posters who defend DA and attempt to discount our talent defensively will say look at all those great offenses with far less talent than LSU...yet defensively we have the best dc in the country and top 5 talent but are satisfied with our defense ranking outside the top 20.
I just don’t understand why DA is above criticism...usually the more you make puts you under more scrutiny...but some fans refuse to be consistent with criticism
It’s funny though the same posters who defend DA and attempt to discount our talent defensively will say look at all those great offenses with far less talent than LSU...yet defensively we have the best dc in the country and top 5 talent but are satisfied with our defense ranking outside the top 20.
I just don’t understand why DA is above criticism...usually the more you make puts you under more scrutiny...but some fans refuse to be consistent with criticism
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:46 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:Take this and flip it for LSU. How often did LSU's defense give the offense great starting field position? The answer is quite a lot. And even with that LSU still couldn't pile on the points. Might have something to do with the Redzone offense that ranked in the 100's.
As bad as our offense was this year they rarely turned the ball over giving opponents short fields and our special teams also forced most teams to go 70 yards or more. I would love to see a stat for avg starting field position for our opponents and where that ranks nationally
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:48 pm to Topwater Trout
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Yeh it hurt Chaison was lost for the season
I think this really hurt and they couldn't figure out how to overcome it
Posted on 1/21/19 at 8:51 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Take this and flip it for LSU. How often did LSU's defense give the offense great starting field position? The answer is quite a lot. And even with that LSU still couldn't pile on the points. Might have something to do with the Redzone offense that ranked in the 100's.
Hence the reason LSU's scoring and total defense numbers are a bit low, but the efficiency rating is in the top 12. Advanced metrics are a beautiful thing.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 9:32 pm to Topwater Trout
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I just don’t understand why DA is above criticism...usually the more you make puts you under more scrutiny...but some fans refuse to be consistent with criticism
The criticism should be consistent. If Aranda's D is ever a statistical bottow dweller like the offense, then he'd be fair game. But luckily, that'll never happen.
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