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re: Moscona is right about Kelly being right.

Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:46 am to
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9231 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:46 am to
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Well when BK was there, there wasn't a transfer portal and NIL, so they couldn't spend money on players legally


And you know this how?

Didn't he get busted with ineligible players after his NC appearance?
Posted by aruss15
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
755 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 7:57 am to
I hope ND loses by 30 on Monday
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
1732 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:05 am to
quote:

new football operations center,


While facilities do matter, fancy facilities are going to take a back seat to NIL collective. Players do not care how great the locker room is so long as they are getting paid. Notre Dame alumni are top of the chart
Posted by Tall Tiger
Golden Rectangle
Member since Sep 2007
3832 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:15 am to
And he went to Catholic in BR and is a huge Scott Woodward fan as a result, and is thus highly invested in the Kelly hire working out.
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Pike Road, AL
Member since Mar 2015
4395 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 8:33 am to
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This is exactly why Kelly left ND because he wanted to go to a place like LSU that had already built a new football building and was willing to spend money to raise the LSU program to a champiionship level.



Kelly left because LSU offered him 100 mil at 61 years old. Yall can believe all the other bullsh*t if you want too.

Posted by Lisanders88
Member since Oct 2022
250 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 9:50 am to
How do they all of a sudden get these elite players with the academic requirements they have? Did they drop those? All the money in the world can't fix GPA.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34480 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 10:09 am to
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Kelly left because LSU offered him 100 mil at 61 years old. Yall can believe all the other bullsh*t if you want too.

The two can both be true FFS. In fact they are both reasonably strong motivations.
Posted by TigersJump
In a land far far away
Member since Feb 2018
2911 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 11:44 am to
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Why should I believe Moscona knows anything about what kind of money Notre Dame was putting into football before or after Kelly left? Because he went there for his freshman year of college then left?


It really is time for you to do what you really want in 2025. Drop the LSU card and jump in the Notre Dame bandwagon. It’s all too painfully obvious. Don’t deny what your little bity heart wants.
Posted by CalRipkenJr
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2007
1791 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Freeman took over a program that went to a semifinal playoff game in 2020. Kelly took over a program that only had 39 scholarship players


You can't cherry pick your statements...you compare ND in 2020 to LSU in 2022...the statement could easily be made that "Freeman took over a program that went to a semifinal playoff game in 2020" (as you stated) and that Kelly took over a program that won a National Title in January of 2020. It's all in how you spin it...no matter how you spin in, Freeman has reached the highest pinnacle that Kelly did during his entire 13 years at ND in year 3.

I'm sure you'll say that Kelly built ND from the ground and that's different from what Freeman inherited. Tell me this then, after Kelly got to the NC game in 2013 the program obviously was not in ruin any longer...why did it take him another 5 seasons to get back to a relevant position?

By that math Kelly took a 12-1 team that played for a title in 2012 (a blowout loss) and subsequently went
9-4 in 2013
7-5 in 2014
10-3 in 2015
4-8 in 2016
10-3 in 2017
before making a semifinal appearance again in 2018 (another blowout loss).

Freeman took a team that finished 11-2 in 2021 and subsequently went
9-4 in 2022
10-3 in 2023
14-1 in 2024 and in the CFP finals!

Looking at it through this lens Freeman started in a worse place than Kelly did in 2013 and has already finished better.

Freeman > Kelly


Posted by Vincenzo Pantangelli
Member since Nov 2024
1410 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 1:20 pm to
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Moscona is right




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