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re: Moscona hating on Danny Etling

Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:36 am to
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:36 am to
Saying that Danny is limited doesn't make anyone a BH boy. It also doesn't make Danny a bad QB.

LSU football is off this week. Shouldn't you be more chilled?
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11900 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:45 am to
quote:

saying he's limited & LSU will never come close to winning any title under Danny Etling


How many championships in the last 10 years have been won because of elite QB play? Hell Alabama has be dominant with average QBs.

Moscona is just trying to have the hot take.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:46 am to
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Since mett


Reading comprehension?

He said, "I think he is one of the best qb we have had since Flynn".

Maybe Mett was also "one of the best".
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 7:59 am to
He will likely be the top qb in the sec next year, but he is limited...ok
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:10 am to
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Lmfao he's 10x better than Jefferson and he's better than lee also. Lol Jefferson that's priceless.


As ridiculous as it sounds considering the way Jefferson ended his career at LSU, Etling is currently right at or slightly below Jefferson's 2009 campaign. You also have to remember that those QBs were doing this under a Miles led team and not the current regime.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
64755 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:12 am to
moscona is baby back bitch
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:17 am to
quote:

but he is limited


I wouldn't use the term "limited" because there really isn't anything the OC needs to stay away from with him in the game. He does try to make touch throws sometimes when he needs to just go ahead and trust the throw, i.e. the interception last week. No QB is perfect in every phase, but limited would imply the playbook has to be stripped down when he's in the game.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61594 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:25 am to
quote:

LSU will never come close to winning any title under Danny Etling


Did he really say that?
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:30 am to
Seriously, you are one of the worst on this site. You went on and on in the preseason about how BH was ahead of met. It is like you have zero common sense. Well, BH Harris had this many yards...yada..yada.....completely ignoring the fact that BH couldn't complete a 10 yard pass, couldn't get past his first read, and had zero pocket presence. Now you are going on about JJ. The guy was one of the worst qbs in LSU history. This is all racial to you and it is obvious. You are a terrible poster.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18764 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:35 am to
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etling has been exactly what we needed. The ironic thing is that these etling bashers
Firstly, not arguing that or disputing that one bit; agree 100%. From the first play he came in things changed. There were some ugly 2nd halfs with DE, but those were primarily under Miles.

Having said that...
Statistically the only thing LSU looks better at is DE's comp% as compared to BH6 in 2015 (with almost the same yds/comp). Scoring per game is down, QBR is about the same (5 spots better right now- 65 vs 70), yardage is down, etc. Most of those numbers are damn close however.

So my point is arguing against bias, whether it's someone trying to say BH6 is better or DE is doing much better- either direction, the common stats don't support either.

Except... that comp% is everything (when relying on statistics and not 'eye test') AND when it happens... some more stats (skewed because I'm too lazy to compare BH vs DE this year with and without Miles; so it's just 2016 total vs 2015 total)

2015
1-3: 2/4 (3 games)
4-6: 15/28 (11 games)
7-9: 13/25 (12 games)
+10: 17/36 (12 games)

passing on 3rd downs:
35/89 50.5%
3rd long (w/pass): 7.4 times a game
3rd & short (w/pass): .33 times a game
Total 3rd & Short: 32 att (28 rush, 4 pass): 2.7/gm
Total 3rd & Long: 116 att (27 rush, 89 pass): 9.7/gm
Total 3rd down conversion: 39.9%


2016
1-3: 5/6 (4 of 7 games)
4-6: 13/19 (7 of 7 games)
7-9: 5/10 (7 of 7 games)
+10: 5/14 (7 of 7 games

passing 3rd downs:
28/43 53.5%
3rd long (w/pass): 6.1 times a game
3rd & short (w/pass): .85 times a game
Total 3rd & Short: 21 att (15 rush, 6 pass): 3/gm
Total 3rd & Long: 60 att (17 rush, 43 pass): 8.5/gm
Total 3rd down conversion: 43.2%


So yeah, great 3rd down conversion are up; and up significantly.

The key, or point, is that in addition to converting 3rd downs at a higher rate, we're in 3rd and long less times per game. In other words, with DE (or is it without CLM??) first and second downs are more productive. And on a per game basis, that's fairly significant considering we're actually running about 5 plays less per game this year.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:36 am to
The fact that someone would hate on DE after what we've witnessed at qb position for past how ever many years plus how he's came in and moved this offense is little mind boggling.

Innonminate one of you to call this dude today and treat him like the obvious small school child he is on his own show.
Do it.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60500 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:37 am to
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think Danny's arm strength is underrated
his arm is more than adequate

His mobility is pretty good for the QB he is, he is tough as nails.

LF doesn't have that highlight hit on Anderson with our other QBs, they throw it behind him and allow the burnt edge defender to run him OOB. It is the little things, they add up, a punt there could have killed us in the Ole Miss game.

He had a throw in that game too that showed more pop than I thought he had, and the throw to Dupre over the middle after stepping up in the pocket was money.,

He is growing up by the day, I wasn't sold on him early, but he was great under the center against Ole Miss.
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
5815 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:40 am to
What William G said. Not sure I could ask any more than that out of DE
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:41 am to
Danny has the potential to be better. But if you are actually crowning him based on what we have seen you are a complete homer.
Dude has turned the ball over in basically every game. Unforced. I like him way better than harris for his intangibles... But we need to bring someone in to compete with him this summer.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107796 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:42 am to
For everyone to be shitting on Moscona, can we get an actual link or summary to what he said? I have a feeling it really wasnt that bad and most posters are being butthurt bitches
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8889 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:42 am to
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Etling is not yet better than Jefferson or Lee.






All I needed was one quarter of play to disprove this
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19940 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:42 am to
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Moscona
his roll as ichiban really is good though
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:46 am to
You are using all the game stats comparing to 2015. BH is a big reason our stats are lower THIS YEAR.

I love when you guys look at yards...as a key stat. Completely ignoring the fact that BH couldn't complete a 10 yyard pass and when he did he about got our recs killed. This offense is night and day better. Period.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8889 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:46 am to
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LF doesn't have that highlight hit on Anderson with our other QBs, they throw it behind him and allow the burnt edge defender to run him OOB. It is the little things, they add up, a punt there could have killed us in the Ole Miss game.



This is spot on. Leading a receiver is a very underrated part of a throw. It is the difference in a loss on the play and a TD pass. Etling does this pretty well
Posted by TigerinDunbarton
Dunbarton
Member since Sep 2016
1735 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 8:49 am to
Lol. You guys are unbelievable. I'll gladly take a turnover a game in exchange for a competent offense that can complete a forward pass to multiple recs. Good god.
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