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re: More From Nikki Caldwell.......
Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:39 pm to TigahRag
Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:39 pm to TigahRag
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Agree. so if they become contenders next season, will you watch them?
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no .. just doesn't interest me at all .. in fact, i watched the last five minutes of their last national semi final game and that is the only five minutes i have watched in many years
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i realized that was about 15 minutes of my life i would never get back
So tiger rag, you haven't watched them for years and are concerned about the 15 minutes of your life you will never get back?
Well, it doesn't explain why you have spent more than 15 minutes on this sport and thread, which you simply criticize, and the time you will never get back, while posting 83k posts on TD's.
Something doesn't make sense here between the importance of your time and your statements.
Please explain.
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 5:43 am to Bel Air Tiger
I think it's a great hire, and I'm glad she's here. If we're going to have a sport we might as well be good at it. How much do you think UCONN, Tennessee, Duke, Texas A&M, Baylor, or any other women's basketball heavyweights spend on the sport? You make a commitment and see what happens. I think this was a good commitment to our program.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 8:59 am to Bel Air Tiger
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So tiger rag, you haven't watched them for years and are concerned about the 15 minutes of your life you will never get back?
it's a figure of speech .. lighten the frick up .. i don't like women's basketball .. so what ? .. you do, so what ? you are not going to convince me that i really should like it anymore than i am going to convince you it is a boring form of the sport .. that is MY opinion .. just like you have YOUR opinion ... because you like something doesn't mean everyone else should have to like it .. music, art, theatre, etc. .. people have differing tastes in things ...
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Well, it doesn't explain why you have spent more than 15 minutes on this sport and thread
i enjoy debating .. in this thread i debated and discussed the issue ... my involvement in this thread is neither an endorsement for women's hoops nor a castigation of it .. it is simply ME stating MY opinion ..
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and the time you will never get back, while posting 83k posts on TD's.
i certainly don't look at it this way .. i enjoy my time i am on TD.com as does well over 30,000 different, unique users that i am sure enjoy their time on here, otherwise they wouldn't visit .. once again, i look at watching women's hoops as a waste of MY time .. not YOUR time, not LSUAlum's time .. MY time .. one's arrogance about one's own opinion is either a sign of ignorance or low self esteem .. i am still trying to figure out which applies to you ..
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Something doesn't make sense here between the importance of your time and your statements.
Please explain.
my time is very important to me just like yours is to you and everyone else's is to themselves .. how hard is that to understand ... are you really this stupid ?? maybe ignorance IS the answer with you ... do you really think you are going to personally change the masses opinions about the entertainment value of women's basketball ?? please try to explain that to the 12,000 empty seats at the pmac this past season .. please try to explain that to ESPN who just registered horrific ratings for the women's Final Four ... the sport is of interest to a small handful of people and is not anything close to mainstream ... hell, just look at the WNBA .. but you enjoy it .. that is your opinion .. i am expressing mine about the sport .. i am not telling you you are stupid for liking it .. you are taking offense to my opinion and that's pretty shallow ..
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 9:02 am
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:34 am to duboisd
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I think it's a great hire, and I'm glad she's here. If we're going to have a sport we might as well be good at it. How much do you think UCONN, Tennessee, Duke, Texas A&M, Baylor, or any other women's basketball heavyweights spend on the sport? You make a commitment and see what happens. I think this was a good commitment to our program.
Ah..........................................how refreshing.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:40 am to TigahRag
Rag, I'm not sure if I have said this yet, but I think its pretty stupid and financially irresponsible to pay 700K annually to the coach who heads a program with a current 2.3 million dollar deficit.
Especially when you're adding tradition funds to men's basketball ....
Especially when you're adding tradition funds to men's basketball ....
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:44 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Rag, I'm not sure if I have said this yet, but I think its pretty stupid and financially irresponsible to pay 700K annually to the coach who heads a program with a current 2.3 million dollar deficit.
Yeah, you're the first to bring this up.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:48 am to spslayto
Must have some bite to it then!
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:56 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Rag, I'm not sure if I have said this yet, but I think its pretty stupid and financially irresponsible to pay 700K annually to the coach who heads a program with a current 2.3 million dollar deficit.
Especially when you're adding tradition funds to men's basketball ....
yeah .. if you look at each sport as its own, self-supporting balance sheet entity, only football and baseball would end up in the black and the rest just bleed red ink ... but, of course, football's black completely covers everyone's red .. so at the end of the year, in the big picture, the entire department turns a profit, thanks to football ... unfortunately, this is how the AD has to view it and remain title IX compliant ... coaching D1 women's hoops has got to be a sweet gig .. you make a boat load of money and as long as you're not caught in a tryst with your point guard, the job security appears to be not too bad either ..
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 9:58 am
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:59 am to TigahRag
Men's basketball is also in the black. TV contracts ...
Posted on 4/19/11 at 9:59 am to TigahRag
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you make a boat load of money and as long as you're not caught in a tryst with your point guard, the job security appears to be not too bad either ..
I don't think Van would agree with this assessment. And Sue Gunter was instructed by the AD that she needed to turn the program around in the mid to late 90s.
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 10:01 am
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:08 am to spslayto
van pretty much walked out on his own terms .. he came here in the wake of the pokey shite because he thought he'd waltz in, take her players and at least finally reach the Final Four, which he did .. then he pissed away the UT game at the end with horrible Xs and Os .. the two additional years he stayed was gravy for him .. he wasn't run off ..
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 10:13 am
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:12 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Men's basketball is also in the black. TV contracts ...
i guess i just look at the TV contracts as the department as a whole .. sure, if you individualize the TV deals it would .. i am looking at expenses vs. revenue/income ..
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:14 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Rag, I'm not sure if I have said this yet, but I think its pretty stupid and financially irresponsible to pay 700K annually to the coach who heads a program with a current 2.3 million dollar deficit.
well you're not going to do any better if you hire shitty coaches. Good coaches cost money....good coaches make good teams....good teams make money.
i don't understand why some people are concerned with how much or how little a program makes anyways.
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 10:16 am
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:15 am to TigahRag
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van pretty much walked out on his own terms
Another 2 years of mediocrity and program decline and it wouldn't have been on his terms.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:18 am to Choctaw
Television revenue isn't the issue. It's getting folks to attend games. If we can provide even close to what Pokey did as far as support, which comes from success, we will lose less money regardless of her high salary. She was the most attainable, sure thing out there, period. We could have very easily gone and hired another Van and paid less money with the hopes of success. But if that didn't net any success, we would continue to operate with a significant loss. Hiring someone that is about as sure as it gets will lessen that financial burden. Sure, it's a lot of money for a women's coach, but it might be the only certainty as far as operating closer to the black, which is nearly impossible to begin with. That's a net positive if we can keep the losses around 1M or less.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:24 am to 985TigerSaint
Sorry but yall are sadly mistaken. Anyone who watched that press conference could see that Van didn't "walk out on his own terms". They even said he had been "re-assigned". Translation.........."we're relieving you of your duties and giving you this cushy job for the last year of your contract, before you completely destroy the program". Even during his question and answer period it was clear he wasn't leaving voluntarily. So, no.............................being head coach of a women's basketball team is not so "cushy" that you can run a garbage program and expect to keep your job. Performance CLEARLY counts. Otherwise it wouldn't make good sense to relieve a coach who just won 19 games.
Again, like I've been saying, the financial worth of the basketball program is UNIMPORTANT. Why some on this board want to make it out to be is beyond me.
Oh well, I guess some have to find something they can bitch about.........
This article appeared today and check out some of the key quotes about our coach..........
What They're Saying About Nikki
Geaux Nikki!
Again, like I've been saying, the financial worth of the basketball program is UNIMPORTANT. Why some on this board want to make it out to be is beyond me.
Oh well, I guess some have to find something they can bitch about.........
This article appeared today and check out some of the key quotes about our coach..........
What They're Saying About Nikki
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“LSU should get the hire of the year award in hiring Nikki Caldwell. I was an assistant on the staff at Tennessee when she played. I have known her for a long time and followed her when she was an assistant at Virginia. She came back to Tennessee and won a championship as an assistant coach there. When you look at what she did at UCLA in a short amount of time, Nikki is a winner. She works hard. She knows how to relate to people and she is a constant student of the game. There is more than one way to do things and she is going to find the right way that works with the players she has. The folks in the community are going to love her. She’s a Southern girl being from Oak Ridge, Tenn. I am sure she already feels like she is home being now in Baton Rouge.” -- Carolyn Peck, ESPN analyst and former Purdue/Florida head coach/Tennessee assistant coach
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“In Caldwell, the Lady Tigers not only have a proven winner, but a charismatic young coach whose reputation for camera presence, fashion sense, an affinity for high-heel shoes and Harley Davidson motorcycles precedes her. Because the news of her hiring over the weekend sparked calls from fans interested in when 2011-12 season tickets go on sale, the athletic department decided to start selling them on Monday—far earlier than usual.” -- Associated Press
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This is a woman who drives her players so hard, even the male students who practice with her team are ordered to run sprints if they slack. Yet before every practice, everyone stands motionless in a midcourt circle with their feet touching to remind them that they are all one family.” -- Bill Plaschke, Los Angeles Times
Geaux Nikki!
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 10:27 am
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:34 am to lsualum96
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Because the news of her hiring over the weekend sparked calls from fans interested in when 2011-12 season tickets go on sale, the athletic department decided to start selling them on Monday—far earlier than usual.”
is this actually true ?
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:35 am to TigahRag
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is this actually true ?
not sure....but i don't see any reason why the AP would lie about it.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:40 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Rag, I'm not sure if I have said this yet, but I think its pretty stupid and financially irresponsible to pay 700K annually to the coach who heads a program with a current 2.3 million dollar deficit.
Folks, George is NOT the guy you want to put in charge of your talent search to find someone to turn your struggling business around. His hire may not add much to the expense side of the ledger, but it won't likely do much for the revenue side, either.
Posted on 4/19/11 at 10:47 am to nycajun
What yall don't understand is women's basketball is going to lose big no matter how much they win because the market sucks. TV contracts suck and adding a few couple hundred butts in the seats against a few SEC foes won't make up much of that deficit.
I fail to invest highly in something that will never make money or, for that, even come close to breaking even.
Why we pay more for a women's basketball coach than a men's swimming and diving for instance doesn't make much sense. Why follow the "market" for coaches if the market is a failure?
I fail to invest highly in something that will never make money or, for that, even come close to breaking even.
Why we pay more for a women's basketball coach than a men's swimming and diving for instance doesn't make much sense. Why follow the "market" for coaches if the market is a failure?
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 10:50 am
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