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re: MLB Draft Results (LSU Related)
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:26 pm to TigersforEver
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:26 pm to TigersforEver
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believe that that extra year of college is worth the money given up.
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:26 pm to ell_13
Did you seriously not read what I just wrote? You stop reading like halfway through someone's post and then try to one up them. And you end up just copying what the person said before you. Sorry your D3 experience didn't lead to you being even remotely considered for the draft so you have to come on here and act like you're the only person on the whole entire board who's got a clue about college baseball.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:27 pm to ell_13
I have read this stuff for years and want to know the "real reason" from all of the "inside sources" that these people have.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:27 pm to Tigahs1977
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eople think you don't get drafted as high as a senior, which would make being a junior leverage for something other than money.
huh? I read this like 5x and still dont understand what you are trying to say.
I'll ask again, besides money, what other type of leverage do players have?
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:29 pm to Lester Earl
The fact that they can or cannot ever play baseball again because of their year in school. I.e. You get drafted as a Junior "give me my money or I go back to school" you get drafted as a senior the MLB says "you get a case of Powerade and a plane ticket because you can't go back to school"
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:30 pm to Tigahs1977
Did you not understand Lester? Junior leverage is all about money. And it's even MORE prevalent because of the new CVA. You were proving his point and doing a great job of it. And now you're freaking out and attacking me in a way that would make Russian proud because I know how it works?
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:30 pm to Lester Earl
The ONLY leverage these guys have is coming out of HS and saying they will go to college unless they get X amount of dollars. A junior saying he will come back to be a senior is usually asking to lose money. Appel, I know made more by rejecting the Pirates (who also drafted him 8th) and then getting drafted by the Astros.
Not sure how often that happens, though, he is one of the most recent ones. Some guys get drafted higher their junior/senior year than in HS because they filled out and improved.
Not sure how often that happens, though, he is one of the most recent ones. Some guys get drafted higher their junior/senior year than in HS because they filled out and improved.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:35 pm to tduecen
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The ONLY leverage these guys have is coming out of HS and saying they will go to college unless they get X amount of dollars.
gtfoutta here
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:36 pm to Lester Earl
okbbttylafaik
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:38 pm to ell_13
No I'm not freaking out, actually I was just catching up reading from the weekend and it became apparent how much you truly think you know more than everyone else because you played at some no name college. Plenty of people on here have just as good of credentials as you if not better but you're the Omnipotent baseball authority on here and it's maddening. Your hate for Mainieri is ridiculous. But then you CORRECT me with literally exactly what i said just for the sake of correcting someone so that you can say see see I know what I'm talking about. It's like you're a 20 something brat with little man syndrome.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:40 pm to tduecen
You couldnt be more wrong dude.
Blake Dean for instance got paid $35k signing bonus as a SR in the 8th Rd in 2010.
college Soph & Jr's that got drafted around him were getting 6 figure signing bonuses.
$35k vs $125k isnt a big difference to you?
Blake Dean for instance got paid $35k signing bonus as a SR in the 8th Rd in 2010.
college Soph & Jr's that got drafted around him were getting 6 figure signing bonuses.
$35k vs $125k isnt a big difference to you?
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:43 pm to Tigahs1977
This is a pretty solid melt.
1) I don't hate PM. I've said for about 2 weeks now he's done a great job this year. One of his best. Twice today in fact.
2) I said what you said because it was a great argument to show that Junior leverage is all about money. It was worth repeating in a different way. Good job. Your original comment was saying that's the "only" thing they lose. As if there was something else.
ETA: I just want to add that you don't know what I "truly think". I've got plenty of respect for some posters around here. Not that it means anything. It's the internet, 1977. Take a deep breath.
1) I don't hate PM. I've said for about 2 weeks now he's done a great job this year. One of his best. Twice today in fact.
2) I said what you said because it was a great argument to show that Junior leverage is all about money. It was worth repeating in a different way. Good job. Your original comment was saying that's the "only" thing they lose. As if there was something else.
ETA: I just want to add that you don't know what I "truly think". I've got plenty of respect for some posters around here. Not that it means anything. It's the internet, 1977. Take a deep breath.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:44 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I'm totally not seeing how I am wrong, I am saying that the money for most players is made after HS and their RS Soph/JR years, not senior years. So therefore,
You couldnt be more wrong dude.
Blake Dean for instance got paid $35k signing bonus as a SR in the 8th Rd in 2010.
college Soph & Jr's that got drafted around him were getting 6 figure signing bonuses.
$35k vs $125k isnt a big difference to you?
quote:is what I am saying.
college Soph & Jr's that got drafted around him were getting 6 figure signing bonuses.
A junior can very rarely tell a team he is going back for his senior season unless X amount of dollars, it worked for Appel but how often does it work.
Are we arguing the same thing in a different manner?
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:46 pm to Lester Earl
New CBA was signed in for the 2011 season so that's not how it works anymore, at all.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:49 pm to Tigahs1977
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New CBA was signed in for the 2011 season so that's not how it works anymore, at all.
really, do you want me to post the 10th RD from last year and you can see the same correlations for yourself?
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:50 pm to tduecen
The only reason college juniors get the big bucks is because they can opt out of the team that drafted them and return to school. It may not benefit them financially, but they could be drafted by a better organization the next year, go back and develop their skills better bad get picked higher and therefore be more important to an organization, etc etc. I know many kids who were drafted as a junior and told the team $1.4 or I go back to school and the drafting team obliged and paid them what they wanted so they would sign with them. So you're wrong on the RS Soph/Jr front.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:50 pm to tduecen
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A junior can very rarely tell a team he is going back for his senior season unless X amount of dollars, it worked for Appel but how often does it work.
Teams offer them more money because they know they are Juniors, and they know if they dont, they will just go back to college.
Meaning, your statement of:
quote:
The ONLY leverage these guys have is coming out of HS
is fricking wrong
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:53 pm to Tigahs1977
No teams have leeway on what they spend if the #1 pick has a 9 million slot and I sign him for 5 million it gives me 4 million to disperse among other picks. Hence, what the Astros did last year and other teams. So a 6th round pick drafted next to each other can have vastly different bonuses
Here 10th round from LAST YEAR LINK
Pick 288 30k signing bonus
Pick 289 5k signing bonus
Pick 290 125k signing bonus
Here 10th round from LAST YEAR LINK
Pick 288 30k signing bonus
Pick 289 5k signing bonus
Pick 290 125k signing bonus
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:54 pm to tduecen
I literally said this same thing one page ago.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:55 pm to Lester Earl
quote:and in many instances, it does not work for the player. So maybe the statement ONLY was a bit much, but in many cases for non-elite 1st round talents going back for their senior season is not helping them.
Teams offer them more money because they know they are Juniors, and they know if they don't, they will just go back to college.
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