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Miles versus Tressel
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:49 am
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:49 am
I'm sure this is only one of many threads on this, but I didn't see the others on this particular point:
Les smells trouble with his star QB (Perilloux), and kicks him off the team in the spring with no viable backup in place. He uses up all the credit and good will built up over 3 top-5 finishes and a BCS title, but holds onto his job and the university's integrity, and 3 years later we're coming back into the NC picture.
Tressel smells trouble with his star QB, and decides to go with the "let's see if we can sneak by" approach. After things start to show up before the Sugar Bowl, he boldly maneuvers to get his suspected players eligible for that bowl, rather than come clean.
Tressel had probably more credit built up than Miles, and I think he could have rode out a couple down years had he kicked Pryor off when he found out about this. I think this situation hurts a bunch more. I wish LSU would have kept winning big in 08 and 09, but right now I'm glad Miles took the high road and we're clean. Depending on the fallout, OSU might take a big, big hit.
Les smells trouble with his star QB (Perilloux), and kicks him off the team in the spring with no viable backup in place. He uses up all the credit and good will built up over 3 top-5 finishes and a BCS title, but holds onto his job and the university's integrity, and 3 years later we're coming back into the NC picture.
Tressel smells trouble with his star QB, and decides to go with the "let's see if we can sneak by" approach. After things start to show up before the Sugar Bowl, he boldly maneuvers to get his suspected players eligible for that bowl, rather than come clean.
Tressel had probably more credit built up than Miles, and I think he could have rode out a couple down years had he kicked Pryor off when he found out about this. I think this situation hurts a bunch more. I wish LSU would have kept winning big in 08 and 09, but right now I'm glad Miles took the high road and we're clean. Depending on the fallout, OSU might take a big, big hit.
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Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:51 am to Scoob
Miles is 1-0. 
Posted on 3/9/11 at 9:53 am to rpg37
quote:
Miles is 1-0.
WINNING
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:03 am to Scoob
I do agree with you, however, Pryor's actions did not equal Perilloux's. Perilloux deserved to get kicked off because he had been in trouble time after time. Pryor, at least to my knowledge (I don't follow OSU too much) has not been in trouble year after year.
But yes, I like that Miles set a tone by kicking off Perilloux.
But yes, I like that Miles set a tone by kicking off Perilloux.
This post was edited on 3/9/11 at 10:04 am
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:09 am to Tyghas
quote:
Pryor's actions did not equal Perilloux's. Perilloux deserved to get kicked off because he had been in trouble time after time
Agreed, but I can't remember if Perilloux was caught doing things that would affect his eligibility. Breaking laws, yes; but did he break NCAA rules? Funny that you'd have to differentiate between the 2..
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:12 am to Scoob
RP didn't do anything to be ineligible by NCAA or anything LSU would have tried to cover up
His was behavioral and probably criminal
His was behavioral and probably criminal
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:19 am to nicholastiger
quote:
RP didn't do anything to be ineligible by NCAA or anything LSU would have tried to cover up
will repeated drug test failures do it? Serious question.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:23 am to nicholastiger
quote:
RP didn't do anything to be ineligible by NCAA or anything LSU would have tried to cover up
His was behavioral and probably criminal
BUT- I thought the Big 10 played to a higher standard...? You mean to say they will cheat, while we, an S(cumbag)EC school fighting for titles at all costs, would choose to evict a major difference maker from a potential top 5 team, despite the fact he was still eligible?
Man, I bet those snobby Big 10 fans are choking on their coffee this morning. Wonder what's next: Northwestern students with falsified GRE scores?
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:25 am to Scoob
Tressel has been "overlooking" things for years. Despite the "holier than thou" attitude expressed by tOSU fans, they've been shady this whole decade.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:27 am to LSUTANGERINE
quote:Not sure if that affects eligibility. Roids, yep, but doob'age... not sure. Might be more of an institutional rule
will repeated drug test failures do it? Serious question.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:28 am to Scoob
quote:
Tressel has been "overlooking" things for years. Despite the "holier than thou" attitude expressed by tOSU fans, they've been shady this whole decade.
Well put.He just didn;t get caught. Interesting to see if any former players come out of the woodwork and rat them out.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:29 am to DocBugbear
quote:I know a guy who was kicked off the team by Miles for Oxycontin. Told him he could handle a few guys on the team smoking weed every now and again, but drew the line at hard drugs. Not that he condoned smoking weed, but he definitely drew a line at hard drugs.
will repeated drug test failures do it? Serious question.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:31 am to Scoob
quote:
Les smells trouble with his star QB (Perilloux), and kicks him off the team in the spring with no viable backup in place.
He gave Perilloux like 5 chances before finally kicking him off the team.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 10:35 am to Scoob
quote:
BUT- I thought the Big 10 played to a higher standard...? You mean to say they will cheat, while we, an S(cumbag)EC school fighting for titles at all costs
I don't think people usually throw LSU into that category. Undoubtedly, there are dirty programs in every conference and the SEC has had the most suspect ones recently.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 11:06 am to LSUisjustOK
AND...it will be interesting to see if the guy that Pryor's stuff was sold or given to was actually traded for drugs. The shop owner is one shady character. Could all blow up in a very bad way. 
Posted on 3/9/11 at 11:42 am to Scoob
Miles DID NOT kick RP off the team "at the first sign of trouble". He gave RP every chance to make good. Miles did the right thing in the end but he certainly tried to keep RP here...
Posted on 3/9/11 at 11:47 am to The Mick
quote:
Miles DID NOT kick RP off the team "at the first sign of trouble". He gave RP every chance to make good. Miles did the right thing in the end but he certainly tried to keep RP here...
Seems to be lost in everyones memory. I didn't think he would ever kick him off.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 12:22 pm to The Mick
But he never lied to the NCAA like Tressel basically did and then to say he didn't really know who to alert, please. If Dez Bryant gets 10 games and the end to his college career for not being truthful to the NCAA regarding lunch with Deon Sanders then what should Tressel get. NCAA has no balls and will slap him on the wrist.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 12:44 pm to TigerNlc
Yeah, he gave Perilloux a dozen chances before he cut him. I guess the point I meant was this- he did cut him loose, before it harmed the program in an NCAA-specific way (which was likely to come). He did so, despite probably knowing how the team would slump without him.
Posted on 3/9/11 at 1:21 pm to texastigerr
quote:Pre-SC sanctions, I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly. Now, I'm not so sure. The NCAA is, if anything, unpredictable (exactly what you want from a rules-enforcing organization
NCAA has no balls and will slap him on the wrist.
). They will most likely drag their feet, but the eventual outcome could easily end up anywhere from a slap on the wrist to real, consequential penalties for Tressel (e.g., multi-year suspension from coaching) and OSU. 
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