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re: Miles Should Stay Out of the Offense
Posted on 11/5/12 at 12:32 pm to tigerfoot
Posted on 11/5/12 at 12:32 pm to tigerfoot
so now Miles is an offensive guru? Only took him 4 years to find it. Great job. So now we can all quit watching for 4 more years. Whoever came up with this thread is an absolute dipwad. We effing struggled against Towson, and there are idiots mocking people for criticizing leslie. How stupid can you people get. Go watch all the games this year. 
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Posted on 11/5/12 at 12:44 pm to long4life
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and there are idiots mocking people for criticizing leslie. How stupid can you people get. Go watch all the games this year.
says that guy that is still bitching and moaning about...
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We effing struggled against Towson,
wow.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 12:50 pm to long4life
It's been said "luck" is when opportunity meets preparation...CLM "luck" was challenged not because of lack of preparation, it was the opportunity wasn't there to begin with. His timing of "aggressive" play calling is off. A fake only works if the other team isn't ready for it. A sneak only works if you catch them off guard with a scheme that doesn't SCREAM sneak. To me, CLM tried to wear the Mad Hatter hat, instead of letting the situation dictate the call. He just tried to hard to be a hero, and ultimately became a zero.
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 11/5/12 at 12:53 pm to OBUDan
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offensive failures are lack of execution (coaches can't play for the players), lack of quality coaching, or both.
We have been consistently poor on offense for awhile. Next year we will have some huge gaps up front on D. We will need to correct the offensive woes. Either the scheme has been bad, or we can't coach our scheme. It has been pretty bad with mobile and pro style QBs, with big receivers, with power backs, with fast TEs, with good fullbacks.
Like I said, they have three week audition to see if we have found something. I am a Miles fan and truly hope we do well and validate his decisions.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 12:57 pm to tigerfoot
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We have been consistently poor on offense for awhile.
We had two really shitty quarterbacks for a while.
Mettenberger just turned in the best QB performance by any LSU QB probably since Russell was on campus.
Could he regress back into the shitty player we saw over the first part of SEC play? Sure.
Could he have turned the corner? Sure.
We'll see how the rest of the season plays out and make decisions from there.
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Like I said, they have three week audition to see if we have found something.
Agreed
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:06 pm to OBUDan
Miles can do no wrong in the eyes of tards
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:09 pm to sunnydaze
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Miles can do no right in the eyes of tards
FIFY
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:13 pm to OBUDan
We out gained bama!!! Moral victory!!!
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:14 pm to OBUDan
you are so right. may be he should chect out the weather up north.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:20 pm to sunnydaze
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We out gained bama!!! Moral victory!!!
Yes it is, and in some ways instills more confidence in our team and program than the victory in Tuscaloosa.
It may also be what we needed to show we were capable of to recruits at QB and WR. Let's hope it keeps up. Or I will.
You can keep hoping for failure.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:28 pm to OBUDan
Coming from a big Les Miles supporter:
1) There is no arguing that Miles (and coaches) picked the wrong moments to be tricky or take risks; and
2) There is no arguing that Miles (and coaches) picked the absolute wrong moments to be conservative.
Yes, Miles and coaches had this team poised to beat Bama - the only thing that prevented this from happening Saturday night was poor clock management at the end of both halves coupled with unwise "prevent defense" at the end of both halves. Result = 14 unanswered points....emphasis on "unanswered"....because LSU had absolutely -0- time to respond...GAME OVER!
Let's face it - Miles & Coaches laid an egg during the clutch decision-making moments of this game or LSU wins...maybe by double-digits! Hard to swallow when the coaches (including Miles) had these guys ready to play and win....and the players played lights out!
1) There is no arguing that Miles (and coaches) picked the wrong moments to be tricky or take risks; and
2) There is no arguing that Miles (and coaches) picked the absolute wrong moments to be conservative.
Yes, Miles and coaches had this team poised to beat Bama - the only thing that prevented this from happening Saturday night was poor clock management at the end of both halves coupled with unwise "prevent defense" at the end of both halves. Result = 14 unanswered points....emphasis on "unanswered"....because LSU had absolutely -0- time to respond...GAME OVER!
Let's face it - Miles & Coaches laid an egg during the clutch decision-making moments of this game or LSU wins...maybe by double-digits! Hard to swallow when the coaches (including Miles) had these guys ready to play and win....and the players played lights out!
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:33 pm to OBUDan
Whether he is directly involved with the offense or not doesn't matter. He just needs to dial back the trick plays and be smarter about them. Oh, and go ask Mo if she can come kick field goals.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:34 pm to sunnydaze
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We out gained bama!!! Moral victory!!!
Some people are capable of thinking of things in terms other than absolutes.
The problem is, most are not.
Did Miles recruit, prepare and motivate this team for an opportunity at victory Saturday?
Yes.
Is that part of coaching?
Yes.
Did Miles make some questionable decisions that altered the outcome of the game?
Yes.
Are those THE reasons we lost?
Well, if people think three to five in-game decisions are more important than a more rounded view, then of course people would believe that.
If people could step back and acknowledge all sides, they'd believe otherwise.
Despite all the questionable calls (which is really about 3-5 plays in the entire game as I stated), the game was lost when the defense was unable to come up with stops on one drive to end the half, and one drive to end the game.
Make either one of those, you win the game, Miles pushed the right buttons and he's a mad genius unafraid of Saban and standing toe-to-toe with him.
Instead, he's a moron who should be fired.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:36 pm to TigerStuckinOkieland
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1) There is no arguing that Miles (and coaches) picked the wrong moments to be tricky or take risks; and
2) There is no arguing that Miles (and coaches) picked the absolute wrong moments to be conservative.
There are easy arguments to be made against both of these based strictly on WHEN he chose to do them.
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Yes, Miles and coaches had this team poised to beat Bama
Right, which is also part of coaching.
Unfortunately everyone is distilling "coaching" down to 3-5 plays and using that as "proof" that he's an awful coach.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:39 pm to OBUDan
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Mettenberger just turned in the best QB performance by any LSU QB probably since Russell was on campus.
i know flynn had some mistakes in plenty games but do not forget him. he came up big plenty times in 07. either way yes this was the best QB performance since pre-JJ/Lee times.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:40 pm to Jrv2damac
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Can you believe he had the nerve to also take over control of the defense on Alabama's scoring drives?
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:41 pm to OBUDan
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the game was lost when the defense was unable to come up with stops on one drive to end the half,
miles not punting did them no favors there either.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:46 pm to Fat Bastard
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i know flynn had some mistakes in plenty games but do not forget him. he came up big plenty times in 07. either way yes this was the best QB performance since pre-JJ/Lee times.
I'm not forgetting him.
Mett went 24/35 (68.5%) for 298, 1 TD against the best defense in the country, which usually destroys pocket passers.
Flynn's best games:
17/27 (62.9%), for 217, 0 TD, 7 rushes for 12, 1 TD vs. VTech.
22/34 (64.7%) for 319, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 10 rushes for 34 yards vs. Auburn
22/47 (46.8%) for 209, 3 TDs, 9 for 27 rushing, 1 TD vs. Arkansas
19/27 (70.3%) for 174, 4 TDs, 1 INT, 12 for 8 rushing vs. Ohio State
I don't think it's a stretch to say Mett's night was better than any of those, especially considering the surrounding talent and the level of the opponent.
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:47 pm to OBUDan
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Well, if people think three to five in-game decisions are more important than a more rounded view, then of course people would believe that
Those 3-to-5 plays came at key moments and were obviously bad decisions. Then again who knows if he didn't go in at halftime and give a speech about the trick plays failing and everybody needing to step up.
AS far as the defense it was a decision to run prevent. Any key moment can be argued as the reason for the loss. Even time management and play for our last drive attempt. We certainly could have gotten one more play off.
I think one of the worse choices was kicking the last field goal. You get 3 points all you can do is force them to get a touchdown. If you go for it they can get a field goal to tie, but it is still a tie. If you don't get the first down you run the clock down even further. If you do it is game over. Risk/reward.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 1:51 pm to OBUDan
quote:How is this not an error in coaching??? So you saying that the DB's decided to take that drive off. Simon and Mills made a conscious decision to allow Norwood to catch 3 consecutive 1st downs, and to give him about a 20 yard cushion on the 3rd one. Whomever made the prevent call screwed the pooch.
the game was lost when the defense was unable to come up with stops on one drive to end the half, and one drive to end the game.
A agree with your premise, just not the reason.
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 1:53 pm
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