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re: Miles says Harris was ill-prepared by the coach for the Auburn start

Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:11 am to
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Choc and I had this discussion. I've made some bank on betting that Miles wouldn't cover the spread. It's worked out nicely in the last few years.



speaking of....you don't happen to remember that website i pointed out to you? the one that shows where the money is being laid and spread changes. i thought i had faved it but apparently not.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:13 am to
I've got it written down somewhere at my home office but currently at work. I'll see if I can find it and shoot it to you.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:17 am to
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:24 am to
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) how can you accept blame for another if you are the one receiving the blame? 2) when was Brandon harris blamed for the AU game or Miles blamed for playing him and Miles said it wasn't he (miles fault) or Brandon didn't play well enough


Ummmmm.....I don't have time to dissect/search for the logic in these statements right now.

There must be something in the water in Prairieville.
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4725 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:31 am to
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Ummmmm.....I don't have time to dissect/search for the logic in these statements right now. There must be something in the water in Prairieville.


1) which means you don't have the substance to back up your accusation.

2) I wouldn't know, I live in the ATL. Yet, you call other people stupid.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17899 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:34 am to
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And then he compounded the problem by yanking Harris when he should have bit the bullet and rode him the rest of the year.


And risk hurting his ankle even further resulting in more and more injury problems throughout his career? Why does everyone still ignore the fact that HE WAS HURT? HE. SAID. IT.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 10:35 am
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4725 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:40 am to
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Why does everyone still ignore the fact that HE WAS HURT? HE. SAID. IT.


because some people are haters. He's not for Brandon harris, he's against the coach.

if the coach takes blame, wasn't soon enough. if the coach plays the kid, well, shouldn't have. If he doesn't play the kid, well he should have.

how do you make someone like that happy? answer, you can't.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:09 am to
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which means you don't have the substance to back up your accusation.


I feel for you....you're a special kind of stupid that can't be fixed. Reread what you posted several times....maybe it will come to you.

you're in good company though.....gray, goat....they're from PV as well.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 11:12 am
Posted by BLUEBEARD
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:47 am to
I second that emotion...
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:48 am to
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Why does everyone still ignore the fact that HE WAS HURT? HE. SAID. IT.


Why do people who claim that Jennings is some kinda Miles "pet" or "favorite" ignore that Miles has already benched Jennings in favor of Harris???

Why do people claim QBs never improve at LSU when it's clear to anyone with his head not buried in the sand that LSU QBs have improved?

Why do people claim Miles always plays the older player when there are examples after examples of Fr. and So.s playing in front of Jr.s and Sr.s?

BH completed over 70% for 330 yds. with 5 TDs and a efficiency rating of 250 in the 2 games before his Aub. start. Jennings completed 45% for 170 yds. with no TDs, 2 ints and a efficiency rating of like 80 in those same 2 games.

Are we really gonna argue that it was not understandable to give Harris a look see at starting no matter how the move worked out???

Posted by BLUEBEARD
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:48 am to
I second that emotion...
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:56 am to
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BH completed over 70% for 330 yds. with 5 TDs and a efficiency rating of 250 in the 2 games before his Aub. start. Jennings completed 45% for 170 yds. with no TDs, 2 ints and a efficiency rating of like 80 in those same 2 games. Are we really gonna argue that it was not understandable to give Harris a look see at starting no matter how the move worked out


I think most people wonder why we never went back to Harris after Auburn. The injury would certainly explain that.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26756 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:58 am to
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Not throwing the ball wasn't a problem since he threw 14 times in the 1st half. The problem was he only completed 3 of those passes


Yep. They threw the ball. Somebody said something about he should have been in shotgun more (he was), well that would have helped, IF that was even a problem that night. Harris had several problems all on his own that contributed to that display. This was his play by play:

2nd down 4 - Harris fumbled snap
2nd down 3 - Harris throw nowhere near Dural
2nd down 1 - Harris runs the wrong way
3rd down 8 - Harris back to pass, but runs immediately and gets planted at the scrimmage line
1st down 10 - Harris deep pass to Dupre caught near the goal line
3rd down 4 - Harris over throws Dural
1st down 10 - Harris QB draw for 5
2nd down 5 - Harris overthrow Dupre
3rd down 5 - Harris overthrow Quinn who gets decapitated
1st down 10 - Harris pass nowhere near Neighbors
2nd down 10 - Harris gets pressured, gets outside the pocket, but over throws Dural
3rd down 10 - Harris, no pass rush, leaves the pocket and throws across his shoulder into the middle of the field and the Auburn player dropped the int
1st down 10 - Harris middle screen pass to Williams for 3
2nd down 7 - Harris QB draw for 3
3rd down 4 - Harris 3 yard pass to Williams
1st down 15 - Harris slightly overthrow to Dural
2nd down 15 - Harris escapes pressure, picks up 31 on the run
1st down 10 - Harris incomplete to Dural in the endzone
SECOND HALF
1st down 10 - Harris sacked
3rd down 15 - Harris QB draw for 6
1st down 10 - Harris short pass slightly behind Jeter incomplete
3rd down 13 - Harris scrambles, throws way behind Magee

Observations
-4 of his first 5 plays were under center, and he was only under center twice for the rest of his plays
-Nearly every single time he was in shotgun, he had at least 3 WRs, and had mostly four WRs
-In shotgun 72.72% under center 27.27%
-He was off badly on the majority of his passes
-He took off too early, several times with zero pass rush (or at least pass rush contained)
Posted by PlaylikeJeter
Member since Oct 2013
763 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:23 pm to
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And risk hurting his ankle even further resulting in more and more injury problems throughout his career? Why does everyone still ignore the fact that HE WAS HURT? HE. SAID. IT.

Why did he take snaps in mop up duty in two other games after that?
College football players play hurt all season but he wasn't injured
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:26 pm to
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So Les is throwing Cam under the bus. Oh great...


He's blaming himself. Some of you just want to turn whatever this guy says into a negative.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10050 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:30 pm to
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Somebody said something about he should have been in shotgun more (he was), well that would have helped, IF that was even a problem that night.


It was me and what I also said was that it should have been more of West Coast offense that was run that night. Instead we ran our offense out of the Shotgun, which just makes it less effective.

quote:

-In shotgun 72.72% under center 27.27%


You do realize you only posted plays where he ran or threw the ball right? He was in on 40 offensive plays and you listed 22. The 18 you missed were running plays where he was mostly under center. So the defense gets to prepare for run when under center, then prepare for a pass when he is in the gun. Basically we simplified an already simple offense for them. All they had to do was blitz when we were in gun and it rushed a true freshman who overthrew a bunch of receivers. The entire game was a mess with neither the coaches nor the QB performing well enough to even keep it respectable.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 1:31 pm
Posted by RockoRou
SW Miss
Member since Mar 2015
705 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:22 pm to
Jennings has no game and no upside. He can't throw and he can't run, other than that he's OK. The fact that he is still in the QB hunt is the scary part.

Harris was obviously immature last year and did not prepare himself properly to participate at the college level. Both QB's should be better this year, just by osmosis, if nothing else. The offense will be better.

They keep saying that Cam is a QB guru, I'm still waiting for guru part to show up, jmo.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:30 pm to
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He can't throw and he can't run, other than that he's OK.


actually...just like Harris...he can do both. They were both just very inconsistent last season.
Posted by PurpGold 14-0
Member since Nov 2012
3801 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:37 pm to
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He still should have let Harris start the rest of the way and gain valuable experience.

I'm sure Harris would have killed it with that high ankle sprain
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:55 pm to
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Why did he take snaps in mop up duty in two other games after that? 


Because we had no other scholarship QB.
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