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re: Miles: QB situation not settled

Posted on 3/4/09 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/4/09 at 10:01 pm to
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Tell you what, Doc; since you have this absolute psychic knowlege, how about you give me 1000 to 1 odds on Lee starting over Jefferson. I'll bet $1 and you bet $1000. Since you "know" what will happen already, there is zero risk for you; it's a guaranteed free dollar, right?


how about you put up a thousand, and i'll put up a thousand
Posted by King Joey
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/4/09 at 10:42 pm to
quote:

how about you put up a thousand, and i'll put up a thousand
Because I think Jefferson is most likely to be the starter, but I'm not foolish enough to believe that there's no chance it will be Lee. As such, it would be stupid of me to call someone else foolish for thinking there's a chance Lee might start.

Posted by Bad Cat
Painted Post, NY
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 1:23 am to
Miles will start J.J. to protect J.L. from a large faction of our fans who are assholes.

Miles knows if J.J. struggles, the crowd will not come down on him as they might with J.L.

Bringing in J.L. off the bench if J.J. struggles, would be the best bet.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 5:49 am to
King joey,

Next time, don't call someone out on a bet if you don't really mean it.

And what a puss bet it was.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56621 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:15 am to
quote:

what a puss bet it was.


actually, it makes alot of sense

if your contention is that JJ is the starter and Lee has no chance (unless injury to JJ), then you would be the one giving odds

if it is the contention of someone else that the competition is still open and yet to be determined it would be DUMB on their part to give you even odds

it would be like a team being +10 and someone deciding.."nah, i don't need the points"

i see some things change, and some things don't

the amount of posters who agree with myself, bad cat etc are growing

as time passes, more see things objectively and it isn't as cool to just throw JJ under center at Washington in February/March as it was last December/January

there are still tons who pretend to know more than they actually do, and Docs game observation to future predicting skills are second to none...but there will be no convincing him of anything different

and I 100% guarantee you if somehow Lee beats JJ out, there will be a grocery list of excuses
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:24 am to
it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who should be starting brah.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:33 am to
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it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who should be starting brah.


no, it sure doesn't

and nobody claimed it does

BUT....... it does take someone with more information and more objectivity than what you bring ot this topic....if LSU's coach named a starter for 2009 to be a qb who played as little as JJ did and not have an open competition between him and Lee I'd be on top of a mountain screaming that lunatic should be fired

especially since spring practice for the 09 season hasn't even concluded

dawning a starter now for the 09 season (for a guy who has played significantly in only 3 games) is extremely pre mature and you just are refusing to look at things objectively

instead, you are adimately voicing your opinion for JJ > Lee with premature statements claiming JJ should be the starter before the competition has even concluded (or even really began)

most people here know your opinion, but the more you say it...it doesn't make it any less irrational


Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:35 am to
and most importantly, the bet you offered makes no sense..but i'll drop the odds even lower

i'll offer you 100-1
Posted by cepheid
kenner, la
Member since Feb 2007
1638 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:52 am to
If all the QB's show up healthy and stay healthy up to the first game at Washington. Odds on who will be the starting QB.
Jordon Jefferson 75%...........Shepard 14%.........J Lee 10%.........Chris Garrett 1%

JL's mistakes are correctable, but he is so far behind JJ from what they have shown so far that it would take a miraculous leap for him to catch up to and over take JJ and regain the starting job by the opening game. Rocky overtook Ivan Drago against just as long of odds, so don't count him out just yet. Eye of the Tiger.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:52 am to
it's my best educated guess from the evidence put forth in front of me.

he had one good game, and one great game leading the team to 30, and 38 points.

he plays within himself and doesn't force plays.

he plays smart and has the legs to get away from pressure and make the throw.

the chick fil a bowl showed me all I needed to see on how this kid is in a bigtime game.

He doesn't choke, he doesn't force things, he takes what the defense gives him and the team rallies around him because he exudes confidence.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:53 am to
so you put up 1 dollar, and I put up one hundred?

where's the benefit of that bet?
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:54 am to
quote:

how about you put up a thousand, and i'll put up a thousand





Jesus Christ, you are fricking stupid. I mean, fricking stupid, brah.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 7:58 am to
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Jesus Christ, you are fricking stupid. I mean, fricking stupid, brah.


and you are a lonely bitter old man...

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56621 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:03 am to
quote:

so you put up 1 dollar, and I put up one hundred?

where's the benefit of that bet?


okay, keep the odds, but you name the amount

how much money is considered a benefit for you? $100?

i'll put up $100, you put up $10k?

you are the one saying JJ is the guy, seems to me like others are not saying that it is Lee, but that the competition is not over

so, you are the one who should be giving odds here, especially with how adimate you are that it is JJ and no way can it be Lee....i mean, you have said time and time again it is VERY obvious right?

so, if you are so sure, give me 100-1 odds

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:04 am to
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Jesus Christ, you are fricking stupid. I mean, fricking stupid, brah

he just doesn't "get it"
Posted by hotrod
BR
Member since Feb 2009
535 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:16 am to
quote:

JL's mistakes are correctable, but he is so far behind JJ from what they have shown so far that it would take a miraculous leap for him to catch up to and over take JJ and regain the starting job by the opening game.



now this is funny.
Posted by alange
Island hoppin
Member since Feb 2009
4820 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:16 am to
I agree with this, mostly..
quote:

2009 QB line up:
1. JJ
2. RS
3. JL
4. CG
5. That walk-on that Miles has been raving about

I think if JJ were to be injured JL would be the sub, but barring any injury to JJ, I see no reason for JL to play. This can go both ways, as well, say, if JL beats out JJ for the starting position (then we won't see JJ unless an injury occurs.) Consider though, that JJ is the starter, what does JL offer that is so much better/different? I mean, sure, if the coaches want to change the pace...to a slower pace.

I think JJ starts with RS, RR, & KW also getting throws (in that order, and not every game..duh)
I'd use JL ONLY as JJ's backup.

Does anyone know how the QB's will be used at the Spring Game?
This post was edited on 3/5/09 at 8:19 am
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:17 am to

I put up 10 dollars, and you put up 10 dollars, whoever wins gets the other persons ten dollars.

make sense?
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56621 posts
Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:21 am to
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make sense?


no...it makes no sense at all

and i'm really not surprised you don't see that

first off, i am not saying it will be Lee over JJ...and i don't see many people who do say that except people more irrational than yourself...myself and MANY others are just telling you time and time again it is not a forgone conclusion than it will be JJ like you are constantly advocating to be so obvious and apparent.....BUT, if you want to bet $10-$10....okay, i'll bet you $10 JJ has not already won the job....deal?



what are the odds you think lee beats out jefferson?

if you are saying the competition is wide open and the odds are 1-1, then yeah it makes sense

BUT, if you think JJ would beat out Lee 99 of 100 times, than 100-1 in my favor seems pretty fair

so, what is it...is the competition more open than what you are leading on here and you know it, but afraid to look more stupid on here than you already do....OR you are just scared to back your opinions with cash?

what are the odds (in 100) that Lee wins the job? Previously to this you have given him 0% chance...i'm offering you a 1% chance....so, where do you put it?

if you give him a 5% chance, okay, i'll take 100-5
This post was edited on 3/5/09 at 8:24 am
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/5/09 at 8:26 am to
this is really silly
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