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re: Miles MUST split time w/AJ and Harris going forward
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:32 pm to lsuhunt555
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:32 pm to lsuhunt555
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Based on what?
They automatically lose, based on what? They will be without the stellar Jennings' skillset? The dude is a terrible QB. One of the worst in FBS/DIV1 or whatever they are calling it these days. You have no evidence to support that LSU won't do any better or any worse with Harris at the helm. Yeah you can point to Auburn and I can point to the abomination that was NMST. You can, however, see that Harris has a better arm and is a better runner. Now, the rest of his game needs to be brought up to speed and he should split snaps to do so. But Miles has routinely fricked up the QB situation and will continue to do so.
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:35 pm to LSUfan20005
I would assume that months later he has learned the plays a little better. How can a clearly more talented qb become a leader in the huddle when he's on the bench?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:41 pm to catch26
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yep...he could be a total dud. If he comes in for a series or two & does nothing, what are we out?
Absolutely nothing, my point is as long as everyone is willing to accept a lose in both of the last two games to see Harris then so be it. Say what you will, but AJ beat Ole Miss and almost beat Alabama looking mediocre.
ETA: And im not saying we lose with Harris, but as long as you are willing to accept that as the worst case scenario, then its all good.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:43 pm to keeper05
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You have no evidence to support that LSU won't do any better or any worse with Harris at the helm.
Im aware of that. My entire point is the people claiming Harris is better have zero basis for that and if they start Harris and lose to Arkansas they would also be in the crowd bitching that we lost.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:46 pm to BeeFense5
I am as big of a supporter of our coaches as anyone, what has the OP said that isn't correct? I don't think AJ has regressed, I just don't think he is very good. Giving Harris meaningful reps is essential to have the most impactful Spring and Fall. We have to know what we have.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:46 pm to BobBoucher
wait for it
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:47 pm to BobBoucher
I'll be sure to let him know.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:47 pm to lsuhunt555
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almost beat Alabama
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but AJ beat Ole Miss
AJ had zero to do with either game.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:48 pm to lsuhunt555
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Say what you will, but AJ beat Ole Miss and almost beat Alabama looking mediocre.
Which is the same as saying, "we won/almost won in spite of AJ". That is unacceptable. Only 17 teams are worse than us in FBS in passing.
Seven fricking teen! And how many have this talent at Oline, WR, and RB to support the QB?
I'll go ahead and guess none???
Harris ability to flick his wrist and fire the ball on a rope 20 yards down filed is a tremendous advantage. He can get the ball downfield before a defense can react.
Coaches need to work him in to the game and develop that talent so we can have the best guy take the field the next 2 years as the team matures together.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:48 pm to tigerfoot
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AJ had zero to do with either game.
He had more to do with it than Harris did.
And if that's the way you're going to look at it, then Harris had a lot to do with the Auburn lose.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:51 pm to Larry
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Yes, this is because Beckwith was given the chance to play and allow that light to come on. The light will not ever come on for Harris on the sideline.
So give him the darn ball coach! NOW. Mistake was made in our 3 or 4 warmup games when he was not used enough. Can't go back now.
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It's obvious the light has come on for Beckwith and that was a recent thing.
Yes, this is because Beckwith was given the chance to play and allow that light to come on. The light will not ever come on for Harris on the sideline.
So give him the darn ball coach! NOW. Mistake was made in our 3 or 4 warmup games when he was not used enough. Can't go back now.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:57 pm to LSUfan20005
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FWIW, and I take this with a grain of salt, Moscona mentioned on his show yesterday that he's heard from multiple sources that BH flat out relayed the wrong play several times in the Auburn game.
If knowing the playbook is an issue, you can't expect BH to get much playing time. From the coaches point of view, you can't have half a QB and give him limited plays either.
Maybe it's a work ethic thing
Are you saying Harris is dumb and lazy? What about him that makes you think that? He graduated early to come to school early to work on becoming the starter. Nothing about him I have observed would indicate he is lazy or dumb. He comes across as intelligent and a hard dedicated worker. But somehow you see the opposite.
To categorize BH based on his first start on the road against the #3 team in the nation is insanity. Check most QBs' first start and the numbers are usually ugly. Add in the level of competition, on the road and true freshman and it is not out of the ordinary.
True freshman Allen at aTm first start was at home against NLU and he still had a bad game. He was given another start and had a great game against Auburn. He obviously was coached up and calmed down by aTm coaching staff. BH hasn't received an opportunity after his bad game against Auburn and obviously has not been coached up.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:01 pm to BobBoucher
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turning the reigns
reins
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:07 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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BH hasn't received an opportunity after his bad game against Auburn and obviously has not been coached up.
One does not "coach up" playbook knowledge. You either know it or you don't. In order to learn it, you have to put in the study time.
Did you even read my post? I'm just saying what I've heard from numerous news sources and what others have heard too. Is it true? Probably to a degree, but it could be bullshite.
Never said "dumb and lazy," you did.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:11 pm to LSUfan20005
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I'm just saying what I've heard from numerous news sources and what others have heard too. Is it true? Probably to a degree, but it could be bullshite
His performance against Miss St doesn't support the assertion that he's clueless calling plays. And that was after AJ got the starting reps all week.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:15 pm to MrWiseGuy
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Miles is paid $5 million to win games. If he doesn't win, he has a chance to lose his job. He's going to play the player that gives him the best chance to win today, not tomorrow. In his eyes, that's Jennings.
This guy gets it.
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Even if splitting time causes a loss in the short term - something I strongly doubt because the current version of the passing game is largely ineffective and still turns the ball over - I still don't see how it wouldn't be worth it for the program going forward.
This guy doesn't.
LSU is 7-3 with still plenty left to play for this year. Contrary to what fair weather fans think, a season is not lost because we don't win a championship. It's not time to play for next year. We have a good team that suffered losses to better teams that are currently in the top 10. We are getting better each week despite the deficiency at QB. Miles will play the QB that gives the best chance to win next week...period. If Harris can contribute, he'll play. If not, he will have an opportunity to earn playing time next year. If he doesn't earn that, then Jennings will play until the next QB recruit comes in here and earns playing time over Jennings.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:20 pm to LSUfan20005
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One does not "coach up" playbook knowledge. You either know it or you don't. In order to learn it, you have to put in the study time.
Did you even read my post? I'm just saying what I've heard from numerous news sources and what others have heard too. Is it true? Probably to a degree, but it could be bullshite.
Never said "dumb and lazy," you did.
You know not of what you speak. A vital part of coaching is coaching up the playbook. Duh? You keep wanting the say he is dumb for some reason. Who are these sources you speak of? Please link them. And lets not go back to the Auburn game, that was a long time ago. And the team has emphatically shown that players can greatly improve and learn their assignments better over that length of time.
Lack of knowledge & lack of work ethic and dumb & lazy are interchangeable don't you think?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:21 pm to lsuhunt555
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He had more to do with it than Harris did.
By your definition so did Dominque
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:25 pm to PacWilly
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Miles will play the QB that gives the best chance to win next week...period.
Disagree. That Beckwith is so much better than Welter supports that the coaches waited too long to get him in. No way he just got that good overnight. It was there much longer, he just didn't get enough opportunity.
The only reason Welter got benched was because the D performance got that bad. If Welter was at least " serviceable" , he'd probably still be playing today, and while that would be better than where we were, we wouldn't be nearly as good as we are now because of Beckwith.
This is the exact scenario I fear with AJ /Harris.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:27 pm to BobBoucher
So we have 21 players with better back ups, because of Beckwith, the coaches are incorrect in every situation
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