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re: Miles MUST split time w/AJ and Harris going forward

Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:20 am to
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:20 am to
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it is hard to see that happening


Again, based on what?
Posted by Link00707
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Nov 2008
26 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:26 am to
8/26 for 76 yds, 1 TD 1 INT.

A complete inability to read defenses. The fact that once the game got to OT, it was clear that we could not pass when we needed to. That aspect of our offense failed to deliver.

I think that aspect of the offense failing to perform up to standard is about as worse as it can be. We can't pass effectively now. The worst we could get is MORE ineffective passing.
Posted by oldschoolgreats
Member since Nov 2012
1902 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:26 am to
LSU needs to win these last 2 games for recruiting and maintaining its status as a national power. beating ole piss and ot against bama reinforced LSU status. lose 4 or 5 games and we look like a team in full decline.

we have to play to win the game. harris should split reps (40%) during bowl practices. then, in the spring he will get an opportunity to compete.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13449 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:26 am to
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Get Harris on the field.


Agree and despite what the score is.

Jennings to start but Harris needs real time action to develope/learn the game.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
38410 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:29 am to
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8/26 for 76 yds, 1 TD 1 INT.



I just want everyone that is calling for Harris to admit, you have no clue whether or not he will be better. You just want different. Thats all I want.

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The worst we could get is MORE ineffective passing.



Id say that the worst could be pretty bad.
Posted by Link00707
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Nov 2008
26 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:36 am to
I will happily admit that I want a LOOK at what different can be.

Different can be a variety of things. Harris at QB, a more spread look, running out 3 wide sets, etc.

As of right now, Harris is mostly an unknown. We have seen flashes of really good play along with flashes of really bad play. But what we have now is consistently bad play. So give different a chance. If it fails, so be it. But at least you can say you tried.

Would be far worse if we lose to Arkansas and/or A&M and don't even TRY to give Harris a shot if we need more offense.

ETA: I also do not buy into the whole "judge Harris on his performance at Auburn" argument. It has been a long time since that game, so to say he is the same QB when he hasn't even seen the field since is an unsupported statement.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 11:38 am
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
38410 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:40 am to
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Harris at QB, a more spread look, running out 3 wide sets


You believe this?

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But what we have now is consistently bad play


I wouldn't call it consistently bad, id call it inconsistent.

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I also do not buy into the whole "judge Harris on his performance at Auburn" argument


Nor do I, but im tired of the backup QB being the most popular guy on the team. No one has a clue, except for the coaches (shocker), which QB gives them a better chance. Like I asked earlier. If you are ok with Harris playing and losing the last two games, then your point is well taken. If you demand we win the last two games, then AJ is the guy. Plain and simple.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 11:42 am
Posted by MJV
Member since Jan 2014
8 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:56 am to
People forget that for the Aub game, It was 17-7 and Rickey Jefferson dropped an easy INT on their side of the field and our D was horrible. The game got out of hand quick and yes Harris didn't play well, but Jennings is what he is. And that just aint good enough for SEC play.
Posted by catch26
Rock Island, IL
Member since Nov 2011
459 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 11:56 am to
Still not sure how hard it is to perform a hand-off, but I would hope Harris could do that. Arky & A&M aren't going to be gameplanning for Harris, so right now he could be the 'ace up our sleeve'. Give him 10 pass plays that he is comfortable with....JUST 10! Bring him in for a series or two and make the other team scramble to figure out what just hit them! We go into the bye week before a&m and he has 2 weeeks to learn 10 additional pass plays & we use him the same way vs aggies. Still run the ball like crazy but at least we have something that may put the defense on its heels a little bit when it comes to passing the ball.

Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
38410 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:01 pm to
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ace up our sleeve


And he could be a total dud.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68814 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:02 pm to
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My concern is that Miles will stick with AJ (like he stuck with Welter


Look I want to see Harris, but you guys need to make up your mind. Does miles or does chavis coach the defense? Also they haven't stuck with welter. He played when beckwith was hurt.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68814 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:05 pm to
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Different can be a variety of things. Harris at QB, a more spread look, running out 3 wide sets, etc.


We've seen this. The coaches went with what won us 3 games in a row and I can't blame them.
Posted by MISSnTX TIGER
Madison MS
Member since May 2008
74 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:05 pm to
I was going to comment that "the light comes on" for players when they get enough reps in game situations. However, if it is not even coming on in practice and they put him into an SEC game situation when he is clearly not ready, then you are asking for another Jarrett Lee scenario. NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPACT ON MILES OF DOING THAT TO LEE. I suspect that if he is not mentally ready to manage the team, they will take their chances with developing him over the spring and summer and then let him compete next fall. Just a thought.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:10 pm to
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Or he will lose my support.


I can't stand the idea of another year next year with a one dimensional offense


OMG!!
NOOOOOOOOOOO

Not you. Anybody but you.
Posted by catch26
Rock Island, IL
Member since Nov 2011
459 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:10 pm to
yep...he could be a total dud. If he comes in for a series or two & does nothing, what are we out? Especially if he only throws the ball a couple of times? Not like we are putting up points at a blistering pace this season vs conference teams. On the other hand, what if he comes in & leads us down the field for a td...now we got something.

Point is you never will win it all playing 'not to lose' football. Playing safe will win more games than not, but may never get you over the hump to be great. Now is the perfect time to take some risks on offense. Our defense is playing lights out and our next 2 opponents are not world-beaters when it comes to defending the pass.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68814 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:10 pm to
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Even if splitting time causes a loss in the short term -something I strongly doubt because the current version of the passing game is largely ineffective and still turns the ball over - I still don't see how it wouldn't be worth it for the program going forward.


Because this program has won a lot of games by controlling the clock and running the ball.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16760 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:13 pm to
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And he could be a total dud.


I could go 2 for 10 - he'll anyone can throw a fade and let guys like Dural go up for a jump ball.

It seriously can't get much worse, esp now that we have a running game and defense. This is the best opportunity to get Harris some PT so he can compete this spring.

I'm not so sure I buy the "he's so bad he couldn't call the right play" line. He flat out nailed almost every aspect of the game against Moo state, including calling the correct plays on numerous possessions.

My concern is that Miles may stick with AJ thinking "Harris will have his time" - basically the one year after AJ and this stellar freshmen class is gone. What a huge waste that could be.

Get Harris the snaps. Just about everyone agrees his upside is far superior - its time to start working him in.
Posted by Link00707
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Nov 2008
26 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:15 pm to
But everytime we play a team that dedicates itself to stopping the run, we become completely helpless offensively. And it puts us at a severe disadvantage.

Wouldn't it be nice if LSU could win a game instead of hold on or edge out a game against a good opponent? Ole Miss should not have been as close as it was. We had a legitimate shot at Alabama, but fell short offensively. I know the defense collapsed on the last drive, but our offense did nothing in the 3rd quarter despite having the ball for 13+ minutes. That's the definition of anemic.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:16 pm to
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Still not sure how hard it is to perform a hand-off,


Don't you remember from your glory days of playing QB in the SEC?

Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 12:29 pm to
Same shite was being said in 02.

Mau k didn't have it and Randall was the future.

Also in 08.

Lee didn't have it, the future was the 5* Jefferson.


Methinks the rant should STFU.
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