re: Miles DOES NOT Win Games He's Not Suppose to

Holy shite this thread is still going?

I feel bad for the OP, some dumb statements can be swept under the rug and forgotten, but it seems like everyone on TD.com has now seen this thread.

Some of people like piling on to pump your own chest.

But you dinks need to read a little slower...

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...Miles has yet to win a "Big Time" game in conference that he was suppose to lose

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My topic of discussion is games we were not suppose to win, that we acutally won, which is not many with Miles.

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What the hell has the posigaytiger's panties in a wad?

Bringing up bowl games is just stupid given the context of the OP.

I'd like to know what "big time" conference game LSU won under Miles that we were not supposed to. I have one in mind, but I'll let some of you dinks ponder it for a while. (It ain't Auby last year either....don't bring that weak-arse team up)

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Short memoryLSU was 7pt dog to Ga Tech and a dog to Miami in'05

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Ok...you can't say Les loses the games. HE DOESN'T PLAY! The only thing he can do is light a fire under the players butts! We still get to BCS Bowl games. Until then, I am not gonna sweat it. Criticize the way the guys are playing, not the Coach. Yeah he coaches, but he doesn't play.

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Not conference games, not home or away games, and he acknowledged those already.

Try again.

Read the OP a little slower for comprehension, then come back.

You dinks are unreal.

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Dont get so pissy. I didnt read the OP so I didnt know you confined your post to conference games.

But I get your point. Miles doesnt win many SEC games that his team was not favored to win. Although I doubt he is alone in this. And LSU is probably favored in every conference game except Florida, Bama, and UGA on the road. Not many teams do well against them.

Okay people Im back to finalize my thread, which some of you obviously aren't getting. So here is the deal....

For purposes of THIS discussion, I thought it worthwile to bring a few other facts to light. In addition to NEVER winning a game as a real underdog (except the 2 Chick'nSh't Peach Bowls), the following should be considered:

(1) He has lost SEVERAL games where he was favored.
UT 05, UGA 05, UK 07, Ark 07, Ole Miss 08, Ark 08
(2) His wins include a lot of close games which should not have been (LSU was heavy favorite but game was close). Every coach has these games; however, for Les they happen with a rare high frequency.
Ark 05, Ole Miss 06, Bama 07, Tulane 07 , Troy 08, UW 09, Vandy 09, Ms St 09
(3) He only has two STATEMENT wins where he has blown out an above average opponent.
Ms St 07 and Va Tech 07

As I already pointed out, if you lose 6 games where you were the favorite (games you were "supposed" to win) and win 0 games in which you were the underdog (games you were "supposed " to lose), then there is an inequity on the side of LOSING. For all you non-math majors out there, that averages out to 2 losses per season. And anyone worth a hill of beans knows that he was the only coach in the history of the sport who was lucky enough to win a championship with 2 marks in the L column. It doen't take a genious to realize that this is not the mark of a GREAT coach nor the mark of a team that wins championhips.

I could counter with several pages of the good stuff Les has done to show that he's not a BAD coach. That's not what this thread was about. Bottom line…Les Miles is a DECENT coach but not anywhere close to a GREAT coach. His pay puts him in the elite class where things like this will separate him from his far superior peers.

You said it, not me.

It's not a dumb post, basically the odds tell us (the general watching public) who is "suppose" to win the game based on odds. Like if we are a road team, or home team, etc...

I'm not sure what everyone else uses to determine if we are suppose to win, but I'm not a dilusional fan and believe we should win every game.

So unless you can tell me a better way to see what games we are likely to win vs likely to lose, I am all ears.

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It's not a dumb post, basically the odds tell us (the general watching public) who is "suppose" to win the game based on odds. Like if we are a road team, or home team, etc...

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With the exception of being a double-digit favorite/underdog, the odds tell you more about where the money is then whether or not you're "suppose" to win.

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So unless you can tell me a better way to see what games we are likely to win vs likely to lose, I am all ears.

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And here's what most find so fricked up about your logic. If LSU is supposed to lose to UF or Bama, and they do, that somehow means Miles is a bad coach? You're using a screwy metric to determine a coach's worth. I think may here agree with your assessment that Miles is decent not great, but the methods you use to come to that conclusion are a bit screwy.

And frankly, if Miles can win 9-10 games/year with a winning bowl record and manage to recruit kids who don't hold up other students in front of a convenience store, then he's a bit better then 'decent'. JMO.

Please shoot yourself