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re: Miles and Cam better not let these guys down.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:14 pm to SoulGlo
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:14 pm to SoulGlo
An offensive coordinator can ask more of his juniors and seniors than he can of his freshmen and sophomores.
In 2013, Mettenberger was a senior, Beckham and Landry were juniors, and Hill was a freakish athlete at RB.
In 2014, Jennings and Dural were sophomores, and Dupre and Fournette were freshman... and you had pretty much that same cast this year, albeit a more talented sophomore QB in Harris.
2016 should be a year where we can ask our guys to do more "unpredictable" things successfully so that they don't result in negative plays or turnovers.
In 2013, Mettenberger was a senior, Beckham and Landry were juniors, and Hill was a freakish athlete at RB.
In 2014, Jennings and Dural were sophomores, and Dupre and Fournette were freshman... and you had pretty much that same cast this year, albeit a more talented sophomore QB in Harris.
2016 should be a year where we can ask our guys to do more "unpredictable" things successfully so that they don't result in negative plays or turnovers.
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:17 pm to FightinTiga
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I don't care if you're a Miles supporter or not,there needs to be an expectation for an exceptional season
I agree we should see something special next season, but I don't like the line of thinking at the beginning.
Look, Miles is our coach. Plain and simple. He's part of the team and a big reason why guys like Fournette come play for us and give us a chance to have those special seasons. As long as he is the coach, any that don't support him are not truly supporting our team and can gtfo.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:17 pm to SoulGlo
They probably will
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:34 pm to Gray Tiger
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Meanwhile, the pumpers avoid expecting a great season like the plague.
The negas see nothing but gloom and doom even when LSU wins.
No matter the margin of victory, it is: "LSU played down to the opponent, Miles took his foot off the gas, LSU lacks the killer instinct, that opponent wasn't any good, LSU won because of luck, LSU would have lost if..........., LSU will never beat (XXXXXX) if they play like that
What does this have to do with the thread.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:36 pm to panzer
Read your post and I still don't understand...so help. If two teams line up and the defensive front is more dominant than the offensive front, the matchup can still be even because the offense knows the play call and the snap count. If the defense knows the play call (predictability) then the defense wins because of dominance. If you can't keep a dominant defense honest you will get beat. Ole Miss doesn't have any better of an offensive line than we do, however, their team was competitive enough to be in a game where fortune decided the outcome. We couldn't even compete so how can you blame line play more so than predictability? How can a line make holes where defenders know to occupy? Not being a jerk here, I acknowledge that line play was bad but it's near impossible to move a grown man from a spot when he has equal talent and knows where you are trying to take him. 
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:39 pm to Gray Tiger
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The negas see nothing but gloom and doom even when LSU wins.
No matter the margin of victory, it is: "LSU played down to the opponent, Miles took his foot off the gas, LSU lacks the killer instinct, that opponent wasn't any good, LSU won because of luck, LSU would have lost if..........., LSU will never beat (XXXXXX) if they play like that."
Two things.
1)I noted that in response to me pointing out that asses like you will NEVER go on record regarding your expectations for next season.............you did NOT go on record regarding your expectations for next season.
2)Um, when people said that we couldn't beat better teams "playing like that", there were TWO key elements.
First, they did what you will NEVER frickING DO! They made an assertion regarding what they thought might happen. Meanwhile, folks like you just sit there and bitch about the assertions while making NONE of your own. That way, if the assertion turns out to be true, you act like you sort of agreed.........even though you NEVER said so. If it turns out that we do beat the better team, you get to gloat.
Second. Um, in case you hadn't noticed, the people who said that we couldn't beat better with one dimensional offenses turned out to be fricking right. Meanwhile, some of you asses kept up with the "Cmon, we have LF, why pass" bull shite. So. There's that.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:42 pm to chilge1
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An offensive coordinator can ask more of his juniors and seniors than he can of his freshmen and sophomores.
In 2013, Mettenberger was a senior, Beckham and Landry were juniors, and Hill was a freakish athlete at RB.
In 2014, Jennings and Dural were sophomores, and Dupre and Fournette were freshman... and you had pretty much that same cast this year, albeit a more talented sophomore QB in Harris.
2016 should be a year where we can ask our guys to do more "unpredictable" things successfully so that they don't result in negative plays or turnovers.
So. For clarification. Are you going on record as saying that given what he has coming back, Miles should be expected to have a great season?
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:42 pm to SoulGlo
They will
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:45 pm to SoulGlo
Why is execution or lackof not factored into all this criticism of coaches. We have a QB who is as inconsistant as they come. How many wide open receivers have to be missed for some of you to get it?
It isnt always coaching as some of you apparently believe. Many times a player is open but the pass is behind or overthrown to the receiver. I see receivers having to alter routes or damn near stop their routes in order to catch a poorly thrown ball. This almost always limits yards after the catch and limits big plays.
Also, how many times do you have to see our QB hold onto the ball far too long and have to
take a sack or in some cases turn the ball over as a result of poor decision making?
It is pretty simple minded to always say that the coaches better not let the players down while ignoring the poor execution and decision making by a QB who is the leader of the team.
Certain players need to focus on not letting their own team mates down and dedicate themselves to improving their game and leadership ability.
It isnt always coaching as some of you apparently believe. Many times a player is open but the pass is behind or overthrown to the receiver. I see receivers having to alter routes or damn near stop their routes in order to catch a poorly thrown ball. This almost always limits yards after the catch and limits big plays.
Also, how many times do you have to see our QB hold onto the ball far too long and have to
take a sack or in some cases turn the ball over as a result of poor decision making?
It is pretty simple minded to always say that the coaches better not let the players down while ignoring the poor execution and decision making by a QB who is the leader of the team.
Certain players need to focus on not letting their own team mates down and dedicate themselves to improving their game and leadership ability.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:46 pm to SoulGlo
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What does this have to do with the thread.
What does this comment have to do with the thread?
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Meanwhile, the pumpers avoid expecting a great season like the plague.
By "these guys" I'm assuming that you mean the fans like you.
The players seem to have a whole lot more respect for Miles than some of you do.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:47 pm to DBest
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Read your post and I still don't understand...so help. If two teams line up and the defensive front is more dominant than the offensive front, the matchup can still be even because the offense knows the play call and the snap count. If the defense knows the play call (predictability) then the defense wins because of dominance. If you can't keep a dominant defense honest you will get beat. Ole Miss doesn't have any better of an offensive line than we do, however, their team was competitive enough to be in a game where fortune decided the outcome. We couldn't even compete so how can you blame line play more so than predictability? How can a line make holes where defenders know to occupy? Not being a jerk here, I acknowledge that line play was bad but it's near impossible to move a grown man from a spot when he has equal talent and knows where you are trying to take him.
Winner.
To expand, teams like Arky and Ole Miss don't even need dominance when they know what's going to happen. Teams like Alabama who do match up physically end up with one or two guys in the backfield before the RB even gets the ball.
This post was edited on 1/9/16 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:50 pm to Gray Tiger
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By "these guys" I'm assuming that you mean the fans like you.
So, for clarification, Gray Tiger is on record as saying that next season, Miles should be EXPECTED to have a great season? Yes?
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:54 pm to SoulGlo
What Ole Miss had was a QB who could complete passes while LSU had a QB who couldn't throw it in the ocean.
I dont know how you are supposed to open things up with a QB who cant hit a 10 yard pass on a consistant basis.
I dont know how you are supposed to open things up with a QB who cant hit a 10 yard pass on a consistant basis.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 3:58 pm to STRIPES
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I dont know how you are supposed to open things up with a QB who cant hit a 10 yard pass on a consistant basis.
If it is genuine reality that our QB performance has nothing do with coaching and is simply the result of them being this bad, then all you have done is shift the reason Miles has FAILED MISERABLY.
If it is genuinely true that his QB recruiting as been that dismal a failure that the best one can hope for from his recruits is a passing game in the 90s or worse unless they're fricking Seniors, then..............well, you figure it out.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:00 pm to ShortyRob
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1)I noted that in response to me pointing out that asses like you will NEVER go on record regarding your expectations for next season.............you did NOT go on record regarding your expectations for next season.
I expect that the coaching staff and the players will bust their butts trying to satisfy crybaby "fans" like you.
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2)Um, when people said that we couldn't beat better teams "playing like that", there were TWO key elements.
1. That they know little about football
2. That they are trying to act like they do.
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First, they did what you will NEVER frickING DO! They made an assertion regarding what they thought might happen. Meanwhile, folks like you just sit there and bitch about the assertions while making NONE of your own. That way, if the assertion turns out to be true, you act like you sort of agreed.........even though you NEVER said so. If it turns out that we do beat the better team, you get to gloat.
An assertion? An ASSERTION?
WTF is that? Oh my goodness look at me mommy I just made an ASSERTION. 
Assertion in this case is a wild guess? How does that prove anything? What value do wild guesses have? Please tell me that you are a little smarter than resting your self esteem on how many wild guesses you make that happen to be right. quote:
Second. Um, in case you hadn't noticed, the people who said that we couldn't beat better with one dimensional offenses turned out to be fricking right. Meanwhile, some of you asses kept up with the "Cmon, we have LF, why pass" bull shite. So. There's that.
Ok please quote me those that said," Cmon we have LF, why pass." I really want to read those quotes. Maybe I'll read them while preparing my assertions. You seem to believe that there are a lot of them. I want to get all my assertions in order so I can be the assertion champ of this site.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:01 pm to FightinTiga
And the reverse is true as well. The expectations from the players is going to be high, and they are the ones who have to execute the plays on the field, and provide the leadership to the younger players.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:02 pm to STRIPES
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Why is execution or lackof not factored into all this criticism of coaches. We have a QB who is as inconsistant as they come. How many wide open receivers have to be missed for some of you to get it?
It is. When 80% of the throws are 15+ yards down the field, the completion rate naturally goes down. When most of the pass plays come in obvious pass situations, the defense can make it harder. We had very few short, high percentage throws. Yes, Harris botched a lot of those too. Also, many of them were to Fournette, who is keyed in on by the defense anyway.
The point is to call plays that HELP the QB and the RB. Get the defense to have to prepare and use men for something other than toss dive or bomb.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:04 pm to ShortyRob
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So, for clarification, Gray Tiger is on record as saying that next season, Miles should be EXPECTED to have a great season? Yes?
What I am expecting is that you and the rest of the snowflakes around here will bitch, cry and moan no matter if LSU wins or loses.
Wait. Is that an assertion?
Wow I made an assertion.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:06 pm to Gray Tiger
quote:Wait. Wut? YOU don't want the team to win?
I expect that the coaching staff and the players will bust their butts trying to satisfy crybaby "fans" like you.
Oh. And, I note again. You refused to go on record. Convenient. Chicken shite, but convenient.
As for the rest, yep. You dodged. You're like the rest of the asses like you. All you do is bitch about what other people say, while studiously avoiding making ANY predictions of your own.
You all talk about Miles being a good coach but none of you seem to have the fricking balls to even say you EXPECT the team to have a great season.
You're just a bunch of chicken shits which is hilarious given this is the fricking internet. You're anonymous for Chrissakes.
Based on the fact you refuse to say what your expectations are, one can only assume that you're just as nega as the people you bitch about. You're afraid we'll lay another egg so you don't want to make a call.
fricking pathetic.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:08 pm to Gray Tiger
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What I am expecting is that you and the rest of the snowflakes around here will bitch, cry and moan no matter if LSU wins or loses.
Wait. Is that an assertion?
It's actually sad. You appear to be more of a negatiger than anyone you bitch about. You can't bring yourself to actually say you think LSU should have a great season.
You're much less a fan of LSU than you are just someone who comes to the board to bitch about fans.
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