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re: Men’s Basketball comparison

Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by JohnDooley
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 12/30/24 at 2:08 pm to
Wade has won everywhere he’s gone, but yea it’s a “handicap” tournament appearance unless it’s a power conference. But wait a minute Wade made the tournament 4 out of his 5 years at LSU only missing it his first year after a 2-16 season by Johnny Jones…u tell me how he’s not a good coach
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66138 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:21 pm to
His argument is silly and it’s a double standard. 1st, one bid leagues have a major reduction in odds to make the tourney compared to at large conf teams. 2nd when McMahon won at a dogshit conference it was a sign that he was good but when Wade does it he’s a “handicapped” loser. That poster is simply incapable of discussing this topic in a reasonable way.
Posted by 420
Member since Nov 2024
120 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:29 pm to
In fairness, the Southland can't hold a candle to the Missouri Valley. The MVC is objectively a far better conference year in and year out
Posted by JohnDooley
Member since Jul 2024
42 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:34 pm to
Murray State was still in the OVC when McMahon was there which at the time was probably a bit worse than todays southland conference
Posted by 420
Member since Nov 2024
120 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:38 pm to
Learned something today
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66138 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 4:42 pm to
The QVC wasn’t very good last season and we lost to a southland team last season so it’s not the giant gap you might think it is especially concerning the teams from those two conferences that compete for tourney bids.
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
5352 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

OVC when McMahon was there which at the time was probably a bit worse than todays southland conference

It certainly wasn’t as good as the MVC is now, but it wasn’t as bad as the southland is.
Posted by 420
Member since Nov 2024
120 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

we lost to a southland team last season


I'm aware. I don't think this really gives any credence to the overall strength of the Southland historically.

quote:

it’s not the giant gap you might think it is


You're putting words in my mouth. My post was concerning the MVC not the OVC. I still think the OVC is a better league top to bottom than the Southland, but you are correct, it is not a monumental gap.

Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11998 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

The fact you drove to McNeese is hilarious


Doesn't realize that, no matter how far drives, the Pear still won't let him suck his dick
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66138 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:11 pm to
The conference is about the same. McMahon’s last year at Murray the MVC was the 11th ranked conference according the NET. Last year they were 10th.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66138 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:12 pm to
Didn’t mean to, I just put the wrong initials for the conference and I screwed that up too lol.
Posted by 420
Member since Nov 2024
120 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

Didn’t mean to, I just put the wrong initials for the conference and I screwed that up too lol.


I thought that was a subtle dig calling it the "QVC." Might have to use that one going forward
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 6:15 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66138 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:16 pm to
There’s a joke in there somewhere
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
5352 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:23 pm to
I was comparing the OVC to the southland. The MVC had been about where they are.

The point that was being made is that McMahon ‘s Murray St. was in the OVC, which is not as good as the MVC. Although, it wouldn’t have made a ton of difference for his good team there.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1427 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

The conference is about the same. McMahon’s last year at Murray the MVC was the 11th ranked conference according the NET. Last year they were 10th.


This is false. Grown up watching a ton of Southland Conference basketball, and it is hands down the worst basketball conference in the NCAA.

Here’s some facts for you:

Southland Conference

Record: 57 Seasons, 7256-7711, (Records do not reflect forfeits and vacated games)

NCAA Tournament: 47 Teams (18-48), 0 Final Fours, 0 Championships

Ranked in AP Poll: 1 (Preseason), 3 (Final), 46 (Total)


Ohio Valley Conference


Record: 77 Seasons, 9063-8988, (Records do not reflect forfeits and vacated games)

NCAA Tournament: 71 Teams (27-75), 1 Final Four, 0 Championships

Ranked in AP Poll: 3 (Preseason), 12 (Final), 128 (Total)


It’s not even close. Stop pushing these false narratives.


This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 6:53 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66138 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:53 pm to
You misunderstood the post. Wasn’t comparing the Southland to the MVC/OVC
Posted by Recoveringcajun
Banjo country
Member since Aug 2022
2587 posts
Posted on 12/31/24 at 7:06 am to
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I also find it funny that you guys have no problem with Les Miles or Orgeron or Saban or Aranda or any other previous coach/player being discussed here except for WW.


Those other coaches you say nobody has a problem with mentioning?

Three of the four you mentioned actually won a natty, and the fourth (Aranda) also won one, but as an assistant.

WW dorks are like the girl that gets dumped after putting out and endlessly pines about “what should have been.”

WW never got past the sweet 16 and had to break rules just to get where he got. And oh…he broke the rules like an amateur.

WW is gone. He’s not coming back. I wish him good riddance.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66138 posts
Posted on 12/31/24 at 7:08 am to
That’s irrelevant, Dale Brown, Johnny Jones, Lou Tepper, Matt Canada, Gerry Dinardo and Smoke are all talked about too.
This post was edited on 12/31/24 at 7:34 am
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14079 posts
Posted on 12/31/24 at 9:23 am to
quote:

. Grown up watching a ton of Southland Conference basketball, and it is hands down the worst basketball conference in the NCAA.



Hmmmm? Sounds like a natural fit for Mac. He could probably post a winning record, maybe not a championship.

Mac already schedules teams that fit that criteria. Mississippi Valley State, New Orleans, Stetson.
Mac has found his niche.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
4185 posts
Posted on 12/31/24 at 9:41 am to
So, just to be clear. You prefer THIS MEDIOCRE bullshite (McMahon), over having LSU relevant and successful in basketball on the national scene (Wade), correct???????

If so, HOLY SPIT!!!!! You either hate men's basketball (perhaps you have a white hood in the trunk of your car????), or you're motherflucking ignorant.

Or, behind door #3, you're stupid enough to believe that Wade was one of a few select coaches that were recruiting players illegally, which would take your ignorance to a completely different level.

You also talk like he was here for 10+ years and never won jack in the NCAAs. Do me a favor and check out Scott Drew's career arc over at Baylor. I bet your dumb arse would have been screaming about how bad he was if he was doing that at LSU and not Baylor, right??

All we have is to hope that this motherflucking ZOMBIE can somehow light a fire under the program and have us in the tournament every year, just like Wade did.

Whichever it is, you ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer, home slice.
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