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Media "Heisman is his to lose... sacks are counted against his staggering rushing numbers"

Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:50 pm
Yahoo Sports Nick Bromberg - The 2023 Heisman Trophy finalists have been announced.

LSU’s Jayden Daniels, Ohio State's Marvin Harrison Jr., Oregon’s Bo Nix and Washington’s Michael Penix Jr. were named the four finalists for the award on Monday. The Heisman winner will be announced on Saturday.


All three quarterbacks put up big numbers over the 2023 season and betting odds make it seem like the award is Daniels’ to lose. He’s the overwhelming favorite at BetMGM at -1400, while Penix is at +900 and Nix is at +2200. Harrison, who also put up big numbers at wide receiver, is a long way back at +20000.

Daniels is the only quarterback in the country to throw for over 3,000 yards and rush for over 1,000 yards this season. He was 236-of-327 passing for 3,812 yards and 40 TDs to just four interceptions. His 11.7 yards per attempt led all of college football by a wide margin. Alabama QB Jalen Milroe was No. 2 in the category at 10.4 and only three QBs averaged more than 10 yards a pass.

Daniels also rushed 135 times for 1,134 yards and 10 touchdowns. That’s a staggering 8.4 yards a carry and the best average of any player in college football with more than 100 rushing attempts. It’s a remarkable figure when you consider that sacks are counted against a quarterback’s rushing total.

Link Yahoo Sports LINK

Daniels's image is pictured first, before the others, and it's noted Heisman is his to lose. LINK

Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:53 pm to
The votes are already in..
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
14429 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:53 pm to
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Harrison is widely considered the best wide receiver in college football, though he’s the biggest long shot to win the award. He has 67 catches for 1,211 yards and 14 TDs and averages over 18 yards a catch. He’s scored 28 TDs over the past two seasons and is a consensus projected top-five pick in the 2024 NFL Draft.


Just absurd justification for his invite. On so many levels.

Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
6754 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:55 pm to
Rare to find a Yahoo Sports article not bashing LSU.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:59 pm to
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Rare to find a Yahoo Sports article not bashing LSU.


West coast media are lighting up flaming Yahoo while we posts.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68944 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:59 pm to
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Daniels also rushed 135 times for 1,134 yards and 10 touchdowns. That’s a staggering 8.4 yards a carry and the best average of any player in college football with more than 100 rushing attempts. It’s a remarkable figure when you consider that sacks are counted against a quarterback’s rushing total.



In case anyone is wondering what Jayden's rushing stats would look like without the sacks being held against him which is the way the NFL does it...

He rushed for 1,250 total yards taking out the sack yardage, he was sacked 21 times. So:

135-21 = 114 rushes for 1,250 yards is right at 11 yards per carry
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
81111 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:59 pm to
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Just absurd justification for his invite. On so many levels.


Accolades because of his name.

If he were Marvin Davis, Jr., he’d be just another good WR.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 1:02 pm to
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he was sacked 21


That’s surprising. With his escapability, I’d have thought it’d have been single digits.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68944 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 1:08 pm to
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That’s surprising. With his escapability, I’d have thought it’d have been single digits.



I mean 21 times in 12 games is extremely low. That's less than 2 a game.

Jayden got sacked 45 times last season...his escapability actually played against him because he simply held onto the ball a bit too long at times.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
3264 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 1:09 pm to
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Just absurd justification for his invite. On so many levels.


Seriously. Garrett Nussmeier should change his name to Garrett Brees or something.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10416 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 1:51 pm to
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He’s scored 28 TDs over the past two seasons


when you have to use last years numbers to justify this years selection, yeah, malik got HOSED!!!
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
1840 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:55 pm to
Dude just straight up isn't as good as Malik Nabors. I'm not even sure he's as good as Brian Thomas.
Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
2493 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:02 pm to
All you have to do is ask: “do the other candidates have their jersey (5) and helmet already on display in the NCAA Football HOF?”
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
90143 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:48 pm to
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Jayden got sacked 45 times last season...his escapability actually played against him because he simply held onto the ball a bit too long at times.




I'm not saying that JD5 improved in any area of the game from 2022 to 2023 except... his decision-making got a shite ton better. He made better decisions much more quickly and that resulted in the Heisman Trophy.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1959 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:17 pm to
How the hell is someone +20,000 odds invited?
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14981 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:28 pm to
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How the hell is someone +20,000 odds invited?




Because they invite 4 and he finished 4th
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29449 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:31 pm to
I see we have a couple of Gump trolls downvoting this
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
52206 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:33 pm to
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Just absurd justification for his invite. On so many levels


Yeah but do you know who his dad is?

Is Marvin Harrison Sr. gonna have to choke a b*tch?
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 6:34 pm
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6388 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:42 pm to
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Just absurd justification for his invite. On so many levels.
Harris is not even the best receiver, so how can anyone consider him for best player in the country?

Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:44 pm to
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I see we have a couple of Gump trolls downvoting this


Bama fans expected Milroe to at least get an invite especially after beating no1 Ga and Ohio St losing to Michigan.
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