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re: Matt Flynn is NOT a championship quarterback

Posted on 12/1/09 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 6:59 pm to
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JJ can do anything Mauck can do IMO



I take whatever odds you want.....I say JJ won't win a national title at LSU.....sound good?
Posted by Roadrunner
Member since Oct 2009
67 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:05 pm to
White QBs are always a positive IMO
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83736 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

Matt Flynn is NOT a championship quarterback
Matt Mauck either.



WOW... You really are a moron huh?



Mauck and Flynn did not have the talent that JJ may posses but they were championship quarterbacks. They were students of the game and game managers.... They were LEADERS
Posted by casansin
Member since Jul 2009
443 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:13 pm to
Well as I remember they both won championships after being the number two q back behind two that could not get the job done.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:16 pm to
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I take whatever odds you want.....I say JJ won't win a national title at LSU.....sound good?


well the odds are against JJ...i doubt he will ever have a team as well coached as the 2003 team was. Best oline and defense in LSU history is what won us that championship.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:17 pm to
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Well as I remember they both won championships after being the number two q back behind two that could not get the job done.


Flynn led Pitt to victory

quote:

Mauck and Flynn did not have the talent that JJ may posses but they were championship quarterbacks. They were students of the game and game managers.... They were LEADERS


Flynn has more talent as a QB than JJ does and neither one was a game manager, especially not Mauck
This post was edited on 12/1/09 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94811 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:31 pm to
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Regardless "it's the defense stupid".


Sincerely,

Vince Young
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

White QBs are always a positive IMO


Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175899 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

White QBs are always a positive IMO

Jarrett Lee was a stud.
Posted by jesterJ
Near the Northern Lights
Member since Nov 2009
892 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:48 pm to
First I apologize I read this and got side tracted, watching a replay on the TV of the Burnts and Al Bamas on TV where I live.

quote:

Matt Flynn is NOT a championship QB
Matt Mauck either.

Tired of hearing JJ can't lead us to the promise land. (WTF)

"It's the defense, stupid!"


Both of the Matts played in BCS Title games and both were on the winning teams while at LSU in different systems. Both played for different coaches and both signed to play Pro Ball. Matt Flynn is the back-up or the 2nd QB currently listed on the Green Bay Packers Roster. Matt Mauch was much older since he played @ four years in the A, AA or AAA affiliate to one of the Pro Baseball teams. Both have grey where it truly matters! Numbers are irrelevant when it comes to their leadership skills. Both could run and take a licking without without being wimpy and leave games for extended periods without serious injury during games they played in. Both had better pocket awareness and new when to run and make something out of nothing. If I am correct both held for extra points and field goal attempts. Matt Flynn did something that JJ will never do, is not capable of doing and that is toss a ball over his shoulder while in position to hold and place a ball for a FG attempt to the kicker for a touchdown. Grant you neither were Drew Brees, Tom Brady or Peyton Manning caliber QB's but both were skilled managers of their offenses. Coaching may play a part on their individual success but they were IMHO, better than JJ will ever be as team QB's. They both led their LSU offense on long methodical drives that ate up clock and rested their defensive players during games.
Not only will JJ, never lead us to the promise land (whatever that is?), he will never beat the good SEC teams with his abilities; and he will never be a QB who will lead LSU to a SECCG. He does not have near the swagger of the the two Matt's as an LSU QB!
As my Asian wife said, and who has been watching all the college games with me for almost three years now, JJ is a sissy. I asked her why she said that, and she says he doesn't have leadership skills and he is chicken. She says that she sees other college QB's put down their heads and punish the other teams D. players and try to gain more yardage when they scramble to the outside. IMO, she is correct, I saw it but wanted her opinion in her own words. I was truly shocked that she called him a sissy! I kid you not, her exact words...

And what does the defense have to do with this? That is the real mindless question! (saw it at the bottom of page 4)

Now, JJ could possibly run a wildcat formation better than they could. In fact, I thought that was part of what he might be doing this season. I was wrong as most of us were wrong about Russell Shepard's potential this past season because of the bad coaching. He is rather tall for an every down RB. I'd say that JJ could play WR but he could never take the licks that those guy's take in a game.


Maybe he can try out for Trent Johnson's basketball team? If he would make it, he better not pout or he'd never see the floor.

I am truly disappointed in his leadership skills as much or more as JL when he got down on himself last season, after someone threw him under the bus and destroyed his chance to become a decent QB at this level. I saw JJ make a couple of those same type of throws this season, he was just luckier that they weren't pick sixes. JJ is kind of lucky in a L.M. way. Kind of like a sons image to their father. If he had that ability, I'd be the first to blow his horn! Also, if LSU defense had been as adequate as this JJ's run team this season, maybe JL would still be the QB. I realize that all of this is conjecture, just a small point!

After reading the thread once and laughing, I saw more added to it and I see where you made this statement and I get your point. (your statement) Subtext: The best offense in the country is Houston (not sniffing a title). The best defenses are AL and FL. Where are they playing again? But damn man, maybe if you had made yourself clearer the first time?

( "A conscience which has been bought once will be bought twice.)
Posted by PRIDGENTIGER
TN
Member since Jan 2006
828 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:49 pm to
see this is where it gets stupid. All these people on here get crazy.when you mention maucks stats against ranked teams and they look like shite, they say he won the game. but when jj stats arent out of this world, winning the game isnt enough. Some of you really dont think and i swear you sound ignorant. And to the dumbass that said jj will never win a champiomship, you are supposed to be a lsu fan you dumb frick. Pull for our qb jackass
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
9722 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:51 pm to
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Matt Flynn was a good game manager. He really did not do anything spectactor.


I dunno. . . I thought that flipping the football over his shoulder to the kicker (without looking) on a fake FG against South Carolina was pretty damned spectacular.
Posted by PRIDGENTIGER
TN
Member since Jan 2006
828 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:53 pm to
you're wifes pussy is sideways. Tell her to go eat some dog. How the frick does she know about foorball. Ur an idiot. Stop getting mail order brides bitch and atop personally attacking my team's players you frickin pussy. You wouldnt say none of that shite to jj
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:54 pm to
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Both could run and take a licking without without being wimpy and leave games for extended periods without serious injury during games they played in.


Flynn never missed games due to injury (see SECCG and MTSU) nor Mauck (see UF)

Jefferson is definitely not a wimp, if that is what you are implying. He is playing hurt (like Flynn in 2007) and getting up after taking hit after hit. JJ against Ole Miss was one of the toughest performances i've ever seen. He was getting hit on almost every single play in the 4th quarter and has no help from his oline or running game

quote:

She says that she sees other college QB's put down their heads and punish the other teams D.


how many QB's do this? I saw JJ doing this early in the season until the coaches told him not to. Flynn and Mauck certainly didn't do this.

Most QB's slide buddy. I guess Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, and almost every good QB slides. Flynn would get down before he got hit, its what a QB IS SUPPOSE TO DO.

you've basically shown that you have 0 knowledge of football
This post was edited on 12/1/09 at 8:01 pm
Posted by PRIDGENTIGER
TN
Member since Jan 2006
828 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:58 pm to
see none of these flynn worshipers(im one)wanna hear that he and mauck werent great and that jj has put up similar numbers with far less help. It makes you wonder why the hate for our starting qb.
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 7:58 pm to
Dude, I'm sorry, but 175 yrds passing per game is not going to dominate many teams unless you D is 1 or 2 in the country.

225 to 275 yrds would do it though.

The whole thing starts with the OL.
Without that the QB and the Def would have to be
all 5 star players to win big games.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175899 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 8:02 pm to
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Both could run and take a licking without without being wimpy and leave games for extended periods without serious injury during games they played in.

Mauck missed half of 2002. Flynn missed the Middle Tenn State game, went to the locker room for a moment for his shoulder during the Arkansas game, and missed the SECCG. You're truly an idiot. Nobody's going to read that shite you posted. I'm sure it's all as true and as fact based as this sentence you wrote is.
This post was edited on 12/1/09 at 8:12 pm
Posted by jacksimmons2000
Savannah, GA
Member since Nov 2006
778 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 8:04 pm to
Confusing post dude, but I agree that JJ is a good QB. LSU is lucky to have him.

Now if they could just find 5 guys who could block...
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12611 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

Matt Flynn is NOT a championship quarterback. Matt Mauck either


unbelievable.

03 and 07 was a combination of both O & D. Of course everyone knows that. All Offense or All Defense doesnt work. But to simply say they arent championship QB's is ridiculous.

Tennessee, UGA, Oklahoma and Ohio State will all disagree with you.

Mauck-->Led LSU to an 18-2 overall record as the starting quarterback.

Flynn-->Finished career with a 12-2 mark as LSU’s starting quarterback.

It's not all about the stats, dude. Winning is all that matters.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11949 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 8:11 pm to
i understand your point, but that's the stupidest thing ive ever heard. youre right, matt mauck won a national championship with a great defense and a great o line. matt flynns defense was pretty good but no where near as dominant. in fact, the only reason they lost two games was because the defense was so garbage, they gave up 50 points to arky and kentucky. matt mauck was a manager. without matt flynn in 07, they lose to florida and alabama both. he won that national championship, sometimes in spite of his defense, with 30 plus in every game he started.
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