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re: Matt Flynn-He Could Start For A Handful Of NFL Teams

Posted on 8/29/09 at 2:20 am to
Posted by LS1tiger
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/29/09 at 2:20 am to
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but only time will tell right now.


thats my argument...time...its a simple concept

out-nite
This post was edited on 8/29/09 at 2:22 am
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 8/29/09 at 2:22 am to
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PAC 10 > SEC in your opinion?


oh god here we go...idk what conference is better and it doesnt matter, both played against good competition and NFL caliber players

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BCS title < no BCS title in your opinion?


irrelevant

Posted by LS1tiger
Member since Jun 2005
2725 posts
Posted on 8/29/09 at 2:34 am to
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BCS title < no BCS title in your opinion?


i wasn't saying the pac 10 or SEC is better...i was asking for reasoning that rodgers is better coming out of college than flynn. time is their only difference IMO.

your argument that rodgers is better?
i said he is better because he has more time as a backup to farve...again...i think its a simple argument and no one has argued against it yet
This post was edited on 8/29/09 at 2:37 am
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78088 posts
Posted on 8/29/09 at 2:37 am to
the bcs titles doesnt mean anything...josh heupel won a bcs championship

did backing up favre help rodgers? im sure it did, but he was still a 1st round pick, and the way it turned out, should have been the #1 overall pick
Posted by LS1tiger
Member since Jun 2005
2725 posts
Posted on 8/29/09 at 2:39 am to
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should have been the #1 overall pick


i guess brady should have been the #1 overall too??? again, my argument is that the time behind farve has helped rodgers develop and given the chance, i say that flynn could easily do the same as rodgers (i am not that impressed with rodgers...he has nothing that makes him a unique qb, therefore is easily replaced with a guy like flynn)

and the title of the thread is what???
This post was edited on 8/29/09 at 2:41 am
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 8/29/09 at 2:43 am to
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i guess brady should have been the #1 overall too???


youre not seeing my point...rodgers was in contention for the #1 pick with alex smith, obviously rodgers would have been the better pick...brady was nowhere near the first round

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(i am not that impressed with rodgers...he has nothing that makes him a unique qb, therefore is easily replaced with a guy like flynn)


oh jesus, now youre talking crazy. rodgers will arguably be the 2nd best QB in the NFC this year. are you telling me the ONLY reason rodgers is having success is because of brett favre???
hell, its common knowledge favre wasnt into mentoring or training him

seriously man, i know LSU fans think matt flynn walks on water, but there has to be a point where it goes too far, no?

Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 8/29/09 at 2:51 am to
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that the time behind farve has helped rodgers develop and given the chance, i say that flynn could easily do the same as rodgers (i am not that impressed with rodgers...he has nothing that makes him a unique qb, therefore is easily replaced with a guy like flynn)


Agree with this statement. It takes time to properly develop into a good NFL QB. Not an easy transformation out of college. Not many QBs shine right out of the starting gate. I think Matt Ryan is an rare exception. Not saying J Russell will every amount to anything but a shining example of great talent and potential not being developed properly.
Posted by LS1tiger
Member since Jun 2005
2725 posts
Posted on 8/29/09 at 2:58 am to
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are you telling me the ONLY reason rodgers is having success is because of brett favre???
hell, its common knowledge favre wasnt into mentoring or training him

seriously man, i know LSU fans think matt flynn walks on water, but there has to be a point where it goes too far, no?


first off, i never wanted flynn to start. i thought with RP starting we had a better shot (just my opinion)...rodgers may have been in contention for the #1 overall pick, but that doesn't mean he was the best QB in the draft...ie jamarcus and millions of other first round wasted picks on worthless qbs...again, please tell me what differentiates rodgers from flynn other than NFL experience? and yeah, i think time behind the non-mentoring farve still helped rodgers out...watching the guy practice and play for how many years didn't help him?
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30190 posts
Posted on 8/29/09 at 3:32 am to
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flynn
yr 2007 - comp 202 - att 359 - yrds 2407 - comp% 56.3 - ypa 6.71 - lng 71 - td 21 - int 11 - sack 26 - rate 125.76

rodgers
yr 2004 - comp 209 - att 316 - yrds 2566 - comp% 66.1 - ypa 8.12 - lng 80 - td 24 - int 8 - sack 25 - rate 154.35



You can look at those statistics and see them as similar or as different as you want to see them. But since this has turned into an argument about "experience" now, let me ask this: How many years was Aaron Rodgers the starting QB when he put up those numbers? (Optional: Now subtract .75 years for each season Rodgers played against Pac-10 defenses to calculate his equivalent SEC experience ) In my mind, Rodgers had more starting experience (although against the Pac-10) but only produced slightly better stats on paper.

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your argument that rodgers is better?
i said he is better because he has more time as a backup to farve.


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did backing up favre help rodgers? im sure it did


So y'all agree that spending time behind a "quality" backup helped Rodgers.

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rodgers is having success is because of brett favre???
hell, its common knowledge favre wasnt into mentoring or training him


Matt Flynn has shown similar, if not better, poise than Aaron Rodgers did in his first forays as a Packer(according to GB sports reporters/analysts and fans alike) AND it's common knowledge that Rodgers IS mentoring and training him on a level AR never dreamed of getting from Favre. Add to that the Green Bay "QB School" that Flynn just completed - a program that was instituted during Rodger's firs year as a Packer...

I think people are seeing the same things in Flynn that they realized they missed during Rodgers' initial time behind Favre - but were slapped in the face with when Rodgers was subbed in against the Cowboys... The fact that he was good enough to be a starter.

Now if only Flynn was as SMART...
Posted by MJRuffalo
Huntington Beach
Member since May 2008
6619 posts
Posted on 8/29/09 at 3:39 am to
This whole thread is ridiculous.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30190 posts
Posted on 8/29/09 at 3:45 am to
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This whole thread is ridiculous.


Even more so now that you've posted.
Posted by LSUsaintsfanla
NOLA
Member since Dec 2006
10956 posts
Posted on 8/29/09 at 3:52 am to
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Flynn won a NC something Tom Brady and Manning have never done. That alone makes him better than those two washed up players


im assuming this is sarcasm if not you really are stupid.


this thread defines ranter. where are all you flyyn stares down recievers and he sucks people now. he's done wel in the PRESEASON. that doesnt mean he's better than jack shite. and because the coaches say hes been working hard and doing well. thats coach media talk. im not saying hes doing bad, but no coach comes infront of the media and says he sucks he doesnt work and he needs to step it up. go this thread makes my head hurt.
This post was edited on 8/29/09 at 3:53 am
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15895 posts
Posted on 8/29/09 at 10:08 am to
The p&g glasses some of the people here where are pretty thick.

SI ranked Flynn twentieth out of back up qbs. If you take their opinion, which is decidedly retarded in this matter, they he is in the bottom half of back up qbs. I would not want someone starting for me that is in the bottom half of backup qbs in the league.

Flynn will be a decent back up qb. One rarely "develops" a starting NFL qb. Most are selected in the first if not the first 3 rounds. Granted NE hit it twice with Brady and Cassel, but this is exceedingly rare.

I suspect Flynn will have a couple more years of being a backup and then GB will select another qb to "develop".

He could not start for a handful of "successful" NFL teams. He will not likely start for an NFL team in his career.

But the kid did well for himself. He will be in the league long enough to earn the NFL pension. He will have been around long enough to live his dream. What more can you actually want from a seventh round draft pick?
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