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re: Matt Canada is out of work
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:02 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:02 pm to lsufball19
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Not necessarily
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and that also isn't what I asked you.
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and that also isn't what I asked you.
It's not hard to read between lines, and the fact that you even want to argue that he is not objectively better than Ensminger tells me all I need to know.
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good
Yea, I love running off people that are talented for TE coaches that don't even want the job.
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Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:04 pm to LSU Patrick
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LNCHBOX will hire him to coach the offense of his college football team.
I'll take Canada over Ensminger every day of the week, and it's not close. It's all relative.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:06 pm to slackster
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I'll take Canada over Ensminger every day of the week, and it's not close
You coach a college team too? Dang. This board is full of bigtime head coaches.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:06 pm to LSU Patrick
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You coach a college team too? Dang. This board is full of bigtime head coaches.
If this is your criteria, why are you posting?
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:08 pm to Tigerpride18
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Isnt that the game where Gage rushed for almost 9 yards a carry and scored a td,all on jet sweeps?
If I'm not mistaken, in that same game, Derrick Dillon had a 30 yard gain, not to mention chark averaged 8 yards a carry. All on the same play in the gif. Oh yeah we won 17 to 16, un like the 8 point loss last season.
Well since we like to compare offensive production across seasons against the same teams (people do this repeatedly with Alabama like it means something)....Ensminger's 2018 offense outgained and outscored Canada's offense in 2017 against Florida.
I don't believe Ensminger was a good hire, but jesus christ, it was clear Canada was not a good fit here. Ensminger not being good either doesn't make Canada a good coach. And he was paid almost twice as much as we're paying Ensimnger for essentially the same results.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:08 pm to LNCHBOX
straight from the mouth of one of the smartest people on the team
- said Canada is brilliant. one of those super smart guys that can't tolerate stupidity, said he's kinda a dick but that players liked him overall.
- O neutered him very early. mixed response from players
- most players knew from the get-go that it wasn't going to work out. too many cooks in the kitchen, Canada didn't like Baton Rouge, didn't like O.
- said Canada is brilliant. one of those super smart guys that can't tolerate stupidity, said he's kinda a dick but that players liked him overall.
- O neutered him very early. mixed response from players
- most players knew from the get-go that it wasn't going to work out. too many cooks in the kitchen, Canada didn't like Baton Rouge, didn't like O.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:09 pm to LNCHBOX
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If this is your criteria, why are you posting?
I am hoping to become a bigtime HC like some of you geniuses.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:09 pm to lsufball19
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Ensminger's 2018 offense outgained and outscored Canada's offense in 2017 against Florida.
Lost the game though.
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I don't believe Ensminger was a good hire, but jesus christ, it was clear Canada was not a good fit here.
It's even more clear that Ensminger shouldn't have gotten the job after Canada was shipped off.
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Ensminger not being good either doesn't make Canada a good coach.
Canada being a good coach makes him a good coach.
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And he was paid almost twice as much as we're paying Ensimnger for essentially the same results.
Almost as if a defensive line coach meddled with his system.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:10 pm to LSU Patrick
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I am hoping to become a bigtime HC like some of you geniuses.
This is such a laughably lame take a sports message board.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:10 pm to LNCHBOX
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It's not hard to read between lines,
It's npt hard to answer a direct question. Does Ensminger possibly being worse than Canada mean Canada is a good coach? There is no reading in between the lines. That seems to always be the argument that if anyone says Canada was a bad fit, herp derp well Ensminger didn't score against Alabama, as if that completely invalidates any claim that Canda wasn't good here either (notice I said "either," meaning Ensinger hasn't been great either). maybe just maybe neither one of them are good, but you keep on keeping on thinking this is all about comparing the two.
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Yea, I love running off people that are talented for TE coaches that don't even want the job.
What if Canada isn't talented
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:11 pm to LNCHBOX
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This is such a laughably lame take a sports message board.
Preach on, coach. I'm listening.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:11 pm to LSU Patrick
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Preach on, coach. I'm listening.
Thank you for the reminder on why I avoid this place.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:11 pm to Carson123987
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said Canada is brilliant. one of those super smart guys that can't tolerate stupidity
Interesting
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:11 pm to LSU Patrick
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You coach a college team too? Dang. This board is full of bigtime head coaches.
My favorite comeback.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:11 pm to lsufball19
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What if Canada isn't talented
If this is your claim, you;'re not worth the time discussing the topic
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:12 pm to crescentcity
Color me shocked! 7 schools in 9 years 
y'all still out there huh?
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I'll take Canada over Ensminger every day of the week, and it's not close. It's all relative.
y'all still out there huh?This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:12 pm to LNCHBOX
Two years ago, I wonder what schools would have considered hiring E as their OC?
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:14 pm to LNCHBOX
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Lost the game though.
Canada coach the defense too?
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It's even more clear that Ensminger shouldn't have gotten the job after Canada was shipped off.
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ok?
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Canada being a good coach makes him a good coach.
Is that why he's unemployed? because he's such a good coach? Is that why he never stays anywhere longer than a year?
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Almost as if a defensive line coach meddled with his system.
Almost as if his system has worked 2-3 years in his entire coaching career. You know who else won a Broyles award like Canada and had some success at times? Gary Crowton.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:15 pm to LNCHBOX
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If this is your claim, you;'re not worth the time discussing the topic
So because I don't agree with you that Canada is a good coach, I'm dumb. Ok
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:17 pm to Nissanmaxima
To recap on Canada just recently:
- He was fired at NC State in 2015 after having his best season there, it came out of nowhere but then leaks came out he was hard to deal with
- He lasted a few games here before the coaches started butting heads with him...our AD having to get involved in the matter (which was embarrassing), was let go after the season
- He was named interim coach at Maryland this past season, to which he was not hired full time (they hired Locksley who has a horrific record as HC) and even sacked from OC duties as they hired someone else there too and currently doesnt have a OC/HC job in late June
- To add: Pitt, the place we hired him from after his 2016 season there which was good, passed over him for OC as they hired Mark Whipple instead...the same HC who hired him in 2016, Narduzzi, decided to go with Whipple over potentially re-hiring Canada
Canada had a few good years as OC, but he certainly isn't worth the headache now at multiple stops he's been at giving him the seal of disapproval it seems.
It's 1 thing to be hard to deal with and be a Nick Saban, it's another thing to be a decent but nothing special coach who has to job hop constantly due to circumstances off the field. Canada was never going to work here and he never would have likely had an elite offense here, so I understand moving on from him.
- He was fired at NC State in 2015 after having his best season there, it came out of nowhere but then leaks came out he was hard to deal with
- He lasted a few games here before the coaches started butting heads with him...our AD having to get involved in the matter (which was embarrassing), was let go after the season
- He was named interim coach at Maryland this past season, to which he was not hired full time (they hired Locksley who has a horrific record as HC) and even sacked from OC duties as they hired someone else there too and currently doesnt have a OC/HC job in late June
- To add: Pitt, the place we hired him from after his 2016 season there which was good, passed over him for OC as they hired Mark Whipple instead...the same HC who hired him in 2016, Narduzzi, decided to go with Whipple over potentially re-hiring Canada
Canada had a few good years as OC, but he certainly isn't worth the headache now at multiple stops he's been at giving him the seal of disapproval it seems.
It's 1 thing to be hard to deal with and be a Nick Saban, it's another thing to be a decent but nothing special coach who has to job hop constantly due to circumstances off the field. Canada was never going to work here and he never would have likely had an elite offense here, so I understand moving on from him.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 3:07 pm
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