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re: Marcus Spears just owned yall.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:41 pm to TigerLunatik
Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:41 pm to TigerLunatik
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He's supposed to be an elite recruiter. I think he should be able to sell a recruit on LSU regardless what Marcus Spears or fans on a message board say. All Orgeron has to say is "if they knew what they were taking about, they would be a head coach somewhere."
He does a great job at selling it, no doubt. But what he doesn't need is a prominent LSU alum (who was an All-American and National Title winner under Saban) putting seeds of doubt in recruit's minds that LSU is on shaky ground, or not even the 5th best team in our division. These are the same recruits Saban is pursuing to attend Alabama. And guess what Saban and Smart and Fisher are going to tell that recruit: "Look, even an LSU alumnus thinks they're an afterthought in their own division. Come win championships now."
It amazes me how some people aren't the slightest bit concerned about that and how it could make the recruiting battle against Alabama that much harder. Do we really need another card stacked against us when trying to sell a recruit on LSU vs. Bama, and now LSU vs. UGA, and soon to be LSU vs. A&M?
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:55 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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He can say what he feels, but the issue is what he's felt has been wrong.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:05 am to sheek
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Marcus said that? Sheesh
He was talking specifically about our decade long search for a QB.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:05 am to Ebridg3
Sabans Spunk is his Kool-Aid
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:20 am to Nix to Twillie
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Give me an example of how that can be done. A lot of people say exactly what you have and yet make no effort to differentiate the two.
You asked...
Prime example: On Aug 16, Marcus was on ESPN. This was obviously right after the two Qbs transferred out and we were left with two scholarship QBs. The segment was already introduced as clearly there is a problem at LSU. So the host brings Marcus in (who was already shaking his head and huffing and puffing), and says what's going on at LSU? Marcus's response: "The Cleveland Browns of college football is what they are right now." [all three laugh]. Then Marcus goes on to talk about how it's a bad thing, so many coaching changes, so many schemes, so many moving parts, LSU trying to re-establish itself, questioning if there was ever a QB battle, obviously Narcisse and McMillan "didn't feel like they were in that discussion," saying of Burrow and Brennan: "one of these two guys better be good!"
You don't have to be a PR guru to see how bad that looked. It was a disaster.
Yes, everything he said was true, but that doesn't mean you need to air it all out on national tv, and certainly not without offering a more positive counter-point for people to consider. He very well could have given O or Ensminger a vote of confidence, or given Brennan or Burrow at least a neutral plug (he proved he knows nothing about either one), discuss not how Narcisse and McMillan felt like they weren't in that discussion but how this staff gave them every chance to compete. Discuss how LSU for all its "problems" has just been a QB away from championship caliber teams, talk about the type of offense we want to run and how he thinks Burrow and Brennan can contribute and the unique skill sets each bring to the table, maybe share some insight on discussions he's had with people in the program, maybe talk to one of the damn QBs and get their take on where things stand. Maybe call up O and tell him how he was going to be an an ESPN segment featuring this subject and get a quote or two from him.
The point is there was ample opportunity for Spears to confirm the problems of the past, touch base on the challenges this team faces today, but then also picot and provide some information on the positives and what this staff is doing to fix those problems. He didn't...no, he probably couldn't do any of that because he didn't care to, and he clearly wasn't prepared to. He only focused on the negative. It was a lazy effort on his part. and for someone who's job it is to know what's going on, he sure didn't come off as knowing, or caring to know, jack shite. I'm not even a PR person and I could have walked him through that better, and he could have still been objective and told the truth. He didn't care to. That's my problem with him.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:22 am to RealityTiger
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calling LSU the Cleveland Browns of college football)
He specifically said LSU is the Browns when it comes to QB play...nothing else
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:26 am to JakeFromStateFarm
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Marcus calling LSU the Cleveland Browns of college football. I’m also pretty sure he can go frick himself.
See above. Y'all really need to start researching things instead of believing what people on here post.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:34 am to SportTiger1
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He specifically said LSU is the Browns when it comes to QB play...nothing else
Re-watch the segment. I just did, and that was not my takeaway. The segment was on LSU QB transfers, but Marcus took a very broad (and lazy) approach talking about multiple coaches, now a new head coach, so many moving parts, trying to re-establish itself. The insinuation was that this is a program on shaky ground. He meant more than just QB, that just happened to be the topic of the segment.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:35 am to ibldprplgld
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ibldprplgld
So you just straight up want him to lie on national TV, specifically for recruitung purposes. That's Unethical as hell. Imagine if he picked LSU to finish 2nd in the West while every other media member saw 5th because of glaring weaknesses.
He would be viewed as the biggest homer ever by any non LSU fan.
Y'all are too sensitive about people that don't post sunshine 24/7
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:39 am to SportTiger1
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So you just straight up want him to lie on national TV, specifically for recruitung purposes.
Please quote me where I said that. I'll save you the time: I didn't, nor did I imply it.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:40 am to ibldprplgld
Just watched again and you are incorrect. The entire segment was about lack of quarterback play no matter who the quarterback is/was... very similar to the Cleveland Browns
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 12:47 am
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:45 am to ibldprplgld
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or not even the 5th best team in our division.
He is asked in preseason to rank where the teams will finish. If he thinks LSU finishes 5, then saying otherwise would be a lie.
Maybe lie is not the right word, but you want him to alter his comments even if it doesn't fit his actual opinion
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:45 am to SportTiger1
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Just watched again when you are incorrect. The entire segment was about lack of quarterback play no matter who the quarterback is/was... very similar to the Cleveland Browns
That's your opinion. Given the cavalcade of other negative things he's said about the program, it's pretty clear he meant that as a broad, sweeping commentary.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:49 am to ibldprplgld
If you take it like that, then it is ridiculous, over the top commentary...i cant imagine He would make that comparison on a program level.
But regarding QBs, it's not crazy.
But regarding QBs, it's not crazy.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 12:58 am to SportTiger1
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He is asked in preseason to rank where the teams will finish. If he thinks LSU finishes 5, then saying otherwise would be a lie.
Maybe lie is not the right word, but you want him to alter his comments even if it doesn't fit his actual opinion
If that's the way he feels, that's the way he feels. My point isn't so much that he thought LSU would finish 5th, it's that he's not had anything good to say about LSU recently, and he appears to go out of his way to be negative and sour about it, insinuating that we're not headed the right direction and that we're not stable. Now that we're obviously doing better than most thought, he still hasn't changed his tune (that I have seen). He seems more concerned about defending himself than maybe having some fun with it and eating some crow.
It's coming off as lazy and unprofessional honestly. He's an LSU insider, he should be able to provide some answers or talking points to the national audience about what O is doing to address LSU's issues that everyone knows so well. Instead, he's just re-stating those problems everyone knows about and he's leaving it at that. That's lazy.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:02 am to SportTiger1
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If you take it like that, then it is ridiculous, over the top commentary...i cant imagine He would make that comparison on a program level.
But regarding QBs, it's not crazy.
Even if he did mean it just pertaining to QB, there were so many options he could have talked about specifically regarding QB instead of proffering a lazy one liner and repeating the same issues we all know. Paul Finebaum could have done that.
As an LSU guy, he could, and should, have done much better than that disaster.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:23 am to ibldprplgld
I understand what you want him to do, I just don't think its his responsibility to prop up LSU to a national audience. Especially since he is not there as an affiliate to LSU.
He says stuff that is said on here 1000 times a day...his honest opinions. Unabashed opinions
I haven't watched much this week, but he's probably defending himself from people like this thread has brought out of the woodwork..
Claiming he's not a tiger anymore.
30 days ago it was PERFECTLY logically to be doubtful about the state of the program and the staff's ability to fix it.
Agree to disagree I guess
He says stuff that is said on here 1000 times a day...his honest opinions. Unabashed opinions
I haven't watched much this week, but he's probably defending himself from people like this thread has brought out of the woodwork..
Claiming he's not a tiger anymore.
30 days ago it was PERFECTLY logically to be doubtful about the state of the program and the staff's ability to fix it.
Agree to disagree I guess
Posted on 9/18/18 at 1:58 am to Ebridg3
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Marcus Spears just owned yall.
in what? a pie eating contest?
Posted on 9/18/18 at 2:14 am to Ebridg3
Go suck his dick if you love him so much.
Posted on 9/18/18 at 3:46 am to Ebridg3
quote:isn’t this the point of your post?
Fortunately I'm not like you and won't whine and cry just because someone is saying something I don't like.
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