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re: Mainieri=Orgeron
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:00 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:00 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
posters dont need to change their stances when they are backed up by facts.
So answer my question instead of downvoting me
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:02 am to magildachunks
I don’t think him moving means he wasn’t actively trying to win championships at those schools while He was there.
But if you’re gonna make that arguement, if you’re trying to Win NCs wouldn’t moving from Washington to A&M to LSU make sense?
But if you’re gonna make that arguement, if you’re trying to Win NCs wouldn’t moving from Washington to A&M to LSU make sense?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:02 am to magildachunks
quote:
o answer my question instead of downvoting me
i did
i didnt
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:04 am to magildachunks
im done for the night guys
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:05 am to magildachunks
wait so you’re telling me finishing 10-3 #3 in the AP poll doesn’t PROVE Helton is a good HC?
But 10-3 #6 proves it for O.
Makes sense.
But 10-3 #6 proves it for O.
Makes sense.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 2:07 am
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:07 am to SammyTiger
quote:
don’t think him moving means he wasn’t actively trying to win championships at those schools while He was there.
But if you’re gonna make that arguement, if you’re trying to Win NCs wouldn’t moving from Washington to A&M to LSU make sense?
So...you have no evidence.
I'm pretty sure Alleva wanted to win championships here as well.
It's not always up to the AD who gets hired.
His main role is to keep boosters and big donors happy so the money keeps coming in.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:08 am to 00 Tech Grad
Ogeron would get more out of the talent LSU baseball attracts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:08 am to SammyTiger
quote:
wait so you’re telling me finishing 10-3 #3 in the AP poll doesn’t PROVE Helton is a good HC?
But 10-3 #6 proves it for O.
Makes sense.
No.
But if O goes 5-7 this year, should he be fired? Or is his record 2 years earlier good enough to keep him on?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:11 am to 00 Tech Grad
You're a fricking irrational idiot.
O has consistently changed his coaching staff and addressed issues in his program, not ignored them and wished for the best like MnM.
Don't ever speak again, you're sports illiterate.
O has consistently changed his coaching staff and addressed issues in his program, not ignored them and wished for the best like MnM.
Don't ever speak again, you're sports illiterate.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:12 am to magildachunks
I have Evidence
You’re just ignoring it.
Exhibit 1. Hiring Peterson at Washington
Exhibit 2. Hiring Jimbo Fisher at A&M
Exhibit 3. Hiring Buzz Williams at A&M
The boosters sure would be pissed if we won championships.
No ones ever donates money to a fricking winning program.
You’re just ignoring it.
Exhibit 1. Hiring Peterson at Washington
Exhibit 2. Hiring Jimbo Fisher at A&M
Exhibit 3. Hiring Buzz Williams at A&M
quote:
His main role is to keep boosters and big donors happy so the money keeps coming in.
The boosters sure would be pissed if we won championships.
No ones ever donates money to a fricking winning program.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 2:23 am
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:13 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
did
i didnt
You were posting the
Answer as I was posting that.
But 1 d lineman proves what me and others have been saying: the lines were ignored for flashy skill position players.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:14 am to magildachunks
Well Shelton s last 2 seasons were 10-3 and 11-3 but I agree This season sorta makes you question him.
But if they’re regretting not hiring an interim coach with a career beat 10-3 record because their interim Coach with a career best 11-3 record isn’t working out....
That sounds pretty fricking dumb.
They probably need to do a real
Coaching search and stop hiring Pete Carrol OCs and Interim
Coaches.
But if they’re regretting not hiring an interim coach with a career beat 10-3 record because their interim Coach with a career best 11-3 record isn’t working out....
That sounds pretty fricking dumb.
They probably need to do a real
Coaching search and stop hiring Pete Carrol OCs and Interim
Coaches.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 2:16 am
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:19 am to magildachunks
quote:
I'm pretty sure Alleva wanted to win championships here as well.
Alleva had two targets for replacements for Miles but being the awesome AD he was, they both fell through.
He settled on promoting from within instead of having more of an actual search, even though in his own words, "I am the search."
I will admit O has done better than I anticipated but there are also glaring concerns that, well, concern me. I do support him but there are things that I can't overlook. I don't wish him to fail at all.
I give him credit for stuff he deserves credit for, but he also doesn't get a pass for fans having reservations based on his past performances, and I'm referring to here at LSU. Not at Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 2:37 am
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:21 am to magildachunks
quote:
But 1 d lineman proves what me and others have been saying: the lines were ignored for flashy skill position players.
Unless you look at say the 2016 class we’re we recruited
Lawrence (5*), Alexander (4*) Logan (4*)
There is no denying the DL recruiting was pretty weak. But that’s why O was hired as a position coach.
Brick missing isn’t the same as ignoring the DL.
O missing on elite DEs in 2017 and 2018 is going to have more to do with out DL this year than Lea’s 2015 class.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:27 am to SammyTiger
quote:
Well Shelton s last 2 seasons were 10-3 and 11-3 but I agree This season sorta makes you question him.
But if they’re regretting not hiring an interim coach with a career beat 10-3 record because their interim Coach with a career best 11-3 record isn’t working out....
That sounds pretty fricking dumb.
Ok. Let's look at wins against ranked teams at their current jobs (including as interim): in four years, Helton has beaten 9 ranked teams. In three years O has beaten 10.
And are we now giving the PAC 12 credit for being a good conference? Or are they still laughable and no where near as good as the SEC?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 2:30 am to magildachunks
I dont Love Helton my point was that you’re telling Me O is a better coached based off of 1 season that wasn’t as “good” as Helton’s best season.
And you ducked my question of what O did as interim at LSU to earn the job.
And you ducked my question of what O did as interim at LSU to earn the job.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 2:31 am
Posted on 6/10/19 at 3:16 am to la_birdman
quote:
Well we are not losing pitchers left that's for sure.
What I was referring to was losing Hill after about a month into the season, the kid never returned. Last I heard, he had a bad injury to his PCL. Storz has yet to return from last season, there are others but I can't think of their names, Veitmeier got hurt, Hilliard got hurt.....
It seems (why I stated seemingly losing pitchers left and right) like we don't have much depth in pitchers. This what I meant in a nutshell.
I don't know if it's the conditioning or what but it sure seems strange how it affected almost every pitcher we had this season.
I understand that sore arms and things along those lines are part of being a pitcher but what happened here this season seemed to be something a little more, I don't know if serious is the right word, but more than just sore arms. Maybe it's just me.
it was a play on left as we have no left handed pitching my friend. We are losing way to many pitchers for it to be just the kids fault. Something else is going on.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 3:19 am to Rickdaddy4188
Right on time.... lol
Posted on 6/10/19 at 3:22 am to jb21lsu
quote:
We are losing way to many pitchers for it to be just the kids fault. Something else is going on.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
quote:
I don't know if it's the conditioning or what but it sure seems strange how it affected almost every pitcher we had this season.
I understand that sore arms and things along those lines are part of being a pitcher but what happened here this season seemed to be something a little more, I don't know if serious is the right word, but more than just sore arms. Maybe it's just me.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, sometime things get lost as you're reading a post but we're agreeing here.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 3:30 am
Posted on 6/10/19 at 3:33 am to la_birdman
I agree my friend but people will just say we are negatigers for saying that.
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